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- From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org>
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- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] fruits that grow well in shade
- Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:40:04 -0500
In my limited experience, there is a lot of difference between part shade or an edge, where a plant is exposed to direct diffused radiation from the blue sky and maybe a little direct sunlight part of the day, and full shade.
The late Robert Nitschke mentioned that the English Morello sour cherries which he grew on a north wall "were of a size and quality unobtainable in full sun." He didn't say anything about the yield though.
By report Actinidia kolomikta prefers something a little less than full sun.
Here in the Niagara Peninsula of Ontario, I know of a wild or feral red raspberrry which produces bristly, pleasant tasting (but not outstanding) fruit sparsely in dappled shade.
I have seen a spicebush (Lindera benzoin) fruitng sparsely in dappled shade in heavy soggy clay near Fort Erie (beside Buffalo). I have read of spicebush fruit being used by a gourmet chef in a relish-type concoction for human consumption.
My observation of shaded plants generally is that they fruit sparsely.
I'd say that unless you can harvest from the canopy you should expect very light yields. Since harvesting from the canopy is usually practical only with small trees, I think that the notion which seems to be current among permaculturists, of harvesting plant food from a forest, is not practical unless one is a forager harvesting from a lot of land without competition. Waiting for drops means accepting competition from wild animals which are on the job full time and seem very alert to opportunity. One might do not too badly in woodland with incomplete canopy coverage, or in a place with a lot of edge, but in northeastern North America that means suppressing forest in the long run.
Even harvesting from a canopy seems to need pruning for long term yield and quality - although I would be very interested to hear testimony from personal experience to the contrary. I see that old untended apple trees in full sun can produce a moderate amount of fruit almost every year, lots of typically small apples, but not of the best quality, and a fraction of the yield one might get from well tended trees.
I notice that "Foundations of Silviculture" by Toumey and Korstian (Wiley, 1928, 1947) devotes several pages to the effect of root competition under shade and mentions one Fricke as having published the first study in 1904, in German.
Doug Woodard
St. Catharines
Alan Haigh wrote:
In answer to the question "why do early fruiting varieties do better in shady locations", it is because the sun is higher, and stronger so things in the partial shade usually get more hours of direct light in June and July than later. That sun is also stronger. My guess is that trees manufacture the majority of sugar for the fruit in the 2 or 3 weeks preceding full ripeness (sure tastes that way). Greater accest to light in June and July is not without exceptions- I manage a Baldwin that's got branches from a giant hickory hanging directly over it. The hickory is on the north side so the Baldwin actually gets more light as the sun gets lower in Sept. and Oct.. On some years this actually seems to improve the quality of its fruit as Baldwin quality deteriates on very warm seasons in my area.
I have Heritage raspberries growing under fruit trees in my nursery that are in a lot of shade and they do better than the ones I have in the full sun, probably because the soil stays moist there and it is extremely rich. They would have a richer flavor if they got more light however, but they're still very good. I have also harvested wild blackberries that were larger and just as sweet in 50% shade as ones nearby in full sun.
On the issue of tree vigor in shade, I have observed very vigorous tree growth in fairly shady locations if roots from established larger trees are severed deeply in a circle around the establishing tree in early spring.
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[NAFEX] fruits that grow well in shade,
Alan Haigh, 11/06/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] fruits that grow well in shade,
Douglas Woodard, 11/06/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] fruits that grow well in shade, S & E Hills, 11/06/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] fruits that grow well in shade,
Douglas Woodard, 11/06/2007
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