Hallo Del,
Let me explain, but Lon will be able to explain it much better:
Sorbus domestica fruits are containing many different Phenoles.
These Phenols are 'condensating' later to different Tannines.
This process is making the wine (e.g. Apple-wine) more clear AND is
conservating the wine,
because still some Phenoles are left and they are anti-bactericide.
Such a wine is becoming very stable.
And the taste is increased.
The same is done with some Red-wines if they put it into (fresh)
Oak-tree vessels.
The Tannin from the Oakwood is doing the same. These vessels are called
'Barriques'.
Of course now-a-days this process is done also artificially with
Oakwood-chips or even concentrate.
Sorbus domestica juice has one of the highest TEAC-values
(Trolox-Equivalent-Antioxidative-Capacity)!!!
Some Red-wines have a TEAC of 11, some good Apples a TEAC of 2 or 3, but
Sorbus domestica juice has a TEAC of 146 !
These antioxidative reaction of the different Phenoles have
anti-carzinogen, anti-histamin, anti-viral, anti-bacterial reaction and
they catch free radicals and much more.
In the past they used e.g. a ratio of 3:1 or 3:2 of S.domestica to
Apple juice.
Today they use only 5 to 15% S.domestica juice for the production of
exellent Apple-wine ('Speierlingsäpfelwein').
One reason is the price of the S. domestica fruits.
ciao
hans
Del Stubbs schrieb:
Hans,
What an amazing tree, how is the fruit important in apple wine?
Del
--- hans brinkmann <hans-brinkmann@t-online.de> wrote:
Hallo Lon, Lee and Rob,
I just saw your question and answers and let me add some important
informations.
Some Sorbus domestica cultivar trees are looking like a mixture of
European Mountain Ash with an average Apple tree.
They have very, very beautifull fruits, but with 40 years they are
already old.
But some other Sorbus domestica cultivars are looking more like a big
Oak tree.
Some are up to 400 years old with a trunk diameter up to 1.45 m and up
to 1000kg fruits per tree!
Not very few S. domestica have a height of more than 30 m at Germany.
This means you can find cultivars for an average garden and cultivars
even for forestry.
At Germany the highly prized fruits are very necessary for the
apple-wine production.
S. torminalis fruits are used sometimes for a very high prized snaps at
Austria.
Let me add this very much reduced 24 KB photo from a German Sorbus
domestica tree for a better understanding.
ciao
hans Germany
Lon J. Rombough schrieb:
I haven't taken time to learn _all_ the ways to use them, but Hans
Brinkman has sent me pictures of some selected types in Germany that
have enormous clusters and are used for juice and other products. At
very least, the types he showed me are magnificent ornamentals. The
wood is extremely hard, too.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, *The Grape Grower, *at
http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
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On Sep 21, 2007, at 6:59 PM, S & E Hills wrote:
Now, Lon…It’s descriptions like this one that make me want to find
enough room to plant something like these…
Scott Hills
St. Clair Shores, Mi. 48080
Zone 6b
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*Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2007 11:05 AM
*To:* North American Fruit Explorers
*Subject:* Re: [NAFEX] seruice fruit
I have S. domestica here. The fresh fruit is crisp, juicy, and
incredibly astringent. However, even a good bump or a small mark on
the fruit apparently releases enzymes that blet the fruit in a hurry
as it will become edible in just a few hours. After a day or two it
takes on a flavor that makes me think of brandy.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, *The Grape Grower, *at
http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner of the Garden Writers Association
"Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
For even more grape lessons, go to http://www.grapeschool.com
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On Sep 21, 2007, at 8:38 AM, h black wrote:
There are some large specimens at the Seattle Botanical Gardens. The
fruit is quite beautiful. Like a head of elderberries, maybe 10-15
fruits size of a cherry, some shaped like little pears with blush on
the cheek, some like little apples. They're not bad tasting, but not
as good as a pear. Interesting strong flavor, pear-like texture.
Tree must be 40 ft. But we've had trouble growing them in the heat of
middle TN. Fungus disease and apple borers down on the trunk.
Hector Black zone 6 middle tn.
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