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I HAD NOT READ THE PREVIOUS POST TO TOPGUNS'
REPLY. IT APPEARS
THAT THE ROOTSTOCK ON JOHN'S TREE WAS VIRGINIANA, IF NOT IT
WOULD
HAVE BEEN KILLED ALSO. SINCE YOU HAVE A GOOD AND I
PRESUME
VIRGINIANA RS JUST SAW IT OFF APPROX 10 INCHES ABOVE GROUND
LEVEL, IF 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER, APPLY ABOUT
3 BARK GRAFTS. THIS IS A VERY GOOD TIME FOR THAT TYPE
GRAFT IN
OUR AREA. IF YOU NEED DORMANT BUDWOOD I HAVE A SMALL AMT
TO
SHARE.
LESTER
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Another question on
pruning freeze damage
John:
I grafted 40 native persimmons with Oriental
types this spring, after planting the stocks in the winter. I waited until
they began to show buds. One grafted tree dided rootstock and all; but the
others lived. This is the best percentage I have ever achieved, but first time
grafting onto small stocks and keeping the native sprouts rubbed
off.
As for Jiro, I have one that I grafted in the
top[ of another native tree about 7 feet high 2 seasons back( if the I. D. on
it is correct) I rec'd wood from another Nafexer so it must be correct - i. e.
, if I did not mix it myself. It was hit
hard but is coming back above the graft. I am in zone 7 also - 30 miles south
of Huntsville, AL.
As for Saijo, I have 3 trees, one about 12 feet
tall and 2 about 9 feet tall. They were hit hard but are all three coming back
and I just watered the 2 younger ones as you know the drought we are
in.
I'll let someone else comment on using oriental
stock but I wonder if you have any. I have heard that it is not nearly as
successful a stock as the native. Also, I have yet to try summer grafts on
persimmon so someone who has please check in.
Topgun
Zone 7
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:46
PM
Subject: [NAFEX] Another question on
pruning freeze damage
We also had some pruning questions concerning frost
damage.
I had an Asian persimmon (Jiro) killed by the frost, but the
rootstock is sending up sprouts right next to the graft. I pruned the graft
all the way down to a few inches above the graft, but it clearly was
dead.
It was the first Asian persimmon we planted, and it was
about 2 years old, so the rootstock is now about 2 inches in diameter.
Should I just let the rootstock grow into a tree? Another option might
be to get a branch of a wild native persimmon we have that produces very
tasty fruit. It may be possible to get a branch of similar size and
graft it to the rootstock, though it will be something of a trick since the
trunk goes up about 20 feet without any branches (it grew up under tall
pines). Someone once told me I could graft Asian persimmons onto
native persimmon rootstock, can I do the opposite as well?
Are
persimmons hard to graft? I must admit I've never grafted before,
though I've been closely reading NAFEX postings concering it for years and
am ready to give it a go. Should I wait until next winter?
Our
Jiro was growing rather well until the late freeze (it blossomed for the
first time this spring), and I'm wondering if I should get another Jiro or
if its demise indicates it's not that well suited to this climate. I
have a Saijo I just planted last February and it was starting to leaf out as
well at the frost so those leaves died, but it came back nicely. We
live near Atlanta, Zone 7, but our temperatures rarely dip under 10
degrees.
Thanks for any input on this question, and thanks to all for
your postings; I've learned a lot from them.
Melinda
McCuan
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