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["Thomas Olenio" <tolenio@sentex.net>]

Hi,

Guess you guys don't have hot tubs in your home.  Hot tubs use stabilized
chlorine too.  Ha, ha, ha!  I am no ice lover.

I wonder if the chlorine used in tap water has been "stabilized" with that
acid too.

Time will tell.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Joe and Ellen Hecksel
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 6:06 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Melamine

Lucky Pittman wrote:
> So, Tom;
> How many of the cats that have died of kidney failure were frequent pool 
> swimmers?
> Or, had access to an open swimming pool? 
> We're still a good month away from most folks opening their pools here.

Lucky.....Tom lives in Ontario, Canada.  Canadians start swimming when 
the ice drops below 1" in thinkness.  Of course, they claim to be 
ice-fisherman.

> 
> I'm still not buying it. 
> 
> LLP
> 
> 
> At 12:14 PM 4/30/2007, Tom O. wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>>  
>> I really enjoy piecing together news.  God knows you cannot rely on 
>> the media to do it.
>>  
>> As you know melamine contaminated feed has been linked to pet deaths.  
>> Then melamine contaminated feed was fed to pigs, and the melamine 
>> contaminated pork hit the store shelves (thanks Tyson).
>>  
>> Of course we are told no recall is necessary, for melamine is of 
>> little risk to humans.
>>  
>> What they do not tell you is that it was not the melamine alone that 
>> killed the pets.  The melamine combined in the kidneys of the animals 
>> with another contaminate and crystallized, hindering kidney function.
>>  
>> What was this other contaminate?  A common poolside chemical, found in 
>> most every swimming pool and hot tub. 
>>  
>> The University of Guelph (Guelph, Ontario veterinary college) has 
>> already explored it.
>>  
>>
>>
>>     Discovery by Guelph, Ont., scientists may show how recalled pet
>>     food became toxic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     Noor Javed, Canadian Press
>>
>>
>>
>> Published: Saturday, April 28, 2007
>>
>> TORONTO (CP) - A chemical process that occurs between two compounds, 
>> one used to make plastics and another employed in pool chlorination, 
>> may explain how North American pets were affected, some fatally, by 
>> recalled pet food products, researchers suggest.
>>
>> Cyanuric acid, which was found in urine samples from animals that 
>> died, and melamine, a compound identified in the gluten found in the 
>> recalled pet food, react with one another to form crystals that may 
>> block kidney function, researchers at the University of Guelph said 
>> Friday.
>>
>>  
>>
>> What is cyanuric acid? - Cyanuric acid is a weak acid that is marketed 
>> as a chlorine "stabilizer" for swimming pools.  Other terms used by 
>> the pool supply industry are "isocyanurates", "conditioner" or "CYA".  
>> When exposed to the ultraviolet rays of the sun, the free chlorine in 
>> the pool water will break down and escape.  Cyanuric acid is intended 
>> to reduce this loss of chlorine.
>> Now for the extra score bonus question.  Name one animal that eats 
>> pork and swims in pools treated with cyanuric acid? 
>>  
>> I knew you would get it.  So melamine alone will not kill you, unless 
>> you go swimming and ingest a bit of pool water.  So if drowning 
>> doesn't get you the kidney failure will.
>>  
>> Later,
>> Tom
> 
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