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Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators
- From: "Judson Frisk" <jlfrisk@iowatelecom.net>
- To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators
- Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:55:30 -0600
We have mountain lions that cruise through western Iowa because of the
explosion in the deer population but they are rarely seen. The Iowa DNR
feels that they are young males pushed out of their home territory in the
Black Hills and Wyoming. They have not been a risk for humans or livestock.
I can't imagine that they would be any greater risk or population in the
east. We have many more fatalities from deer automobile collisions than we
will ever have from cougars and other predators. We have bobcats now when
10 years ago they were nonexistent. Unfortunately I haven't seen one yet.
At present our coyote population is down because of an outbreak of mange.
Judson L. Frisk SWIowa zone 5.
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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of dwoodard@becon.org
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 2:52 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators
Charlie, I would guess that back in the days when squirrels and nut trees
co-evolved (crows etc. had something to do with it too, especially I
understand with pecans), there were more predators and fewer squirrels.
I understand that buds are a major winter food source for squirrels.
I imagine that for 14,000 years or so, humans have thinned out the more
obvious and aggressive bears, cougars and maybe wolves. Firearms
restrictions may change methods. I have noticed locally that
suburbanites tend to poison coyotes when they get too common.
I have some doubts whether wild animals will ever take relatively more
of us than traffic does now. I guess we will live with different kinds of
fear, maybe less fear of our own kind.
Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, BekeeprTop@aol.com wrote:
[snip]
> So the big question is, when are these resurgent predators going to start
There sure are a lot of
> squirrels...lord knows what the squirrels eat to get by...the squirrels
take any
> pecan or hickory before the nut inside can every begin to fill out, so how
are
> the squirrels taking advantage of the food offered by the nut tree? I
went
> for a walk in the dead of night the other night, went to a nearby hill for
a
> little run, and got to thinking, in 10-years, this will no longer be
possible. I
> will not be able to go running in the woods in 10-years. The mountain
lions
> will have returned by then. Where the mountain lions are, no bike riding
or
> running is advised, fast motion stimulates any type cats to run down the
fast
> moving object. I went to a lecture sponsored by 5 different mountain lion
> watch and conservation organizations. After an absence of many decades,
mountain
> lions have returned to Missouri. Mountain lions have returned to Missouri
> because their prey, the deer, have returned to Missouri. In the east,
deer
> double each 10 years. Already, we have had multiple unverified sitings
of
> mountain lion less than 10 miles from Boston! In Missouri, the sitings
have been
> verified. Its just a question of time. However, the fishers and coyotes
here
> have returned in force, and I can't see they've yet changed our
environmental
> conditions dramatically. Do you see any substantial difference?
> Charlie Paradise, prob. will be first in Massachusetts to be attacked by
> mountain lion
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[NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators,
BekeeprTop, 02/16/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators,
dwoodard, 02/17/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators,
Judson Frisk, 02/17/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators, Naomi, 02/17/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators, Donna &/or Kieran, 02/17/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators,
Judson Frisk, 02/17/2007
- Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators, list, 02/17/2007
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Re: [NAFEX] Disappointment with resurgent predators,
dwoodard, 02/17/2007
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