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Has anyone grown Naranjilla (lulo), aka Solanum quitoense?

I fell in love with the juice of this fruit last fall in Ecuador.  

According to what I've read, it is a thorny plant approx 6-10 ft tall, hardy to only 32 F, so I'd have to grow it in a large container and over-winter it inside since I'm in zone 6.  I picture it being a little like its cousin, the tree tomato, Cyphomandra betacea, which I have grown.

I’d love to hear anyone’s experiences with this plant. 

Thanks!

Michele

 

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From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of dwoodard@becon.org
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:25 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] OIKOS plums ??

 

Richard, I expect you will find both Stanley and Mount Royal hardy in USDA

Zone 4, rootstock permitting. Be careful about the rootstock, most of the

standard commercial stocks are less hardy than these cultivars. If the

rootstock is not fully hardy, much will depend on the snow cover.

 

I have heard of a small commercial orchard of Stanleys aound Gaspe,

Quebec. Mount Royal was reported to survive most winters but not test

winters at the Agriculture Canada station at Morden Manitoba, agriculture

Canada zone 3b.

 

In 1950 an American pomological journal (I forget the exact title but it

was equivalent to the current HortScience) had an article on the

hardiness of European plums either at Excelsior (Minneapolis) or at

various places around Minnesota. Stanley was found to be a shade

hardier than Mount Royal, but both survived.

 

Krikon Damson was the hardiest. I think Yakima (large, high quality

seedling of Peach, inclined to be a shy bearer, possibly unless well

pollinated) was number 4 in hardiness, might be worth a try in zone 4.

 

In the commercial orchards in the Niagara Peninsula here, Stanley seems

more prone to black knot than most others. >From reading, Mount Royal is

reputed somewhat disease resistant. I have seen a Myrobalan root with

a black knot on the exposed 4 inches when the Mount Royal top was clean.

 

On the sandy peach soils here the fruit quality of Stanley is mediocre.

It might be better on clay (speculation; the Geneva Station that bred it

has a lot of clay from what I've read). It's OK for preserves; sauce I

made was acceptable. I've read good reports of Mount Royal fruit in the

Pomona, but I have no personal experience of its fruit.

 

Mount Royal originated at Montreal around the 2nd quarter of the 19th

century. It's a smallish tree with nice crotch angles (personal

observation as well as reading).

 

If you are going to try beach plum, it might pay you to get seed from the

northern extremity of its range (up to New Brunswick I think, but always

on the coast as far as I know). Some years ago the New Zealanders tried

beach plum as a dwarfing rootstock for Japanese plums. I don't know what

the final conclusion was.

 

Doug Woodard

St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

 

 

  On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Richard MURPHY wrote:

 

> Greetings Fellow Fruits;

> 

> I look at their catalog and wonder why I don't throw in 25 Beach Plums or Nana or Dunbars or American.....

> 

> The intended use is fresh eating and / or Winemaking/ roadside stand.

> 

> I'm trialing Stanley and Mt. Royal in the same orchard in zone 4 Maine.

> 

> Anybody tried these ??

> 

> All opinions are appreciated !

> 

> Richard Murphy

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