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["Bruce Hansen" <brucedhansen@sbcglobal.net>]

Heron:

I have a Black Giliflower and agree with your assessment. I also find the
apple to have a unique flavor and wonder if you know any folk who have tried
mixing it in culinary uses like apple sauce or as a blending apple in cyder.

Bruce

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From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Heron Breen
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:43 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Red Delicious/sheepnose/shape on end


Hi Folks,  Two things to say about this: Lathrop was also the person
responsoble for cutting down and eradicationg hundreds of trees and
varieties. The ones he preserved were only the ones he deemed "worthy". More
of an egotist than a preservationist. It was his job to direct the cutting
of old orchards and individual trees throughout Mass, eliminating many
original trees and making way for development. as with us all, good and bad
combined by the glue of ego to make us gray. His preserved works are also
maintained by Tower Hill Botanical Gardens which sells scionwood and does
fruit tastings in the Fall.  The Red Sheepnose you may be refering to might
be Black Gilifower, which does become mealy quickly, but is excellent picked
and eaten at the "right" time. Another Sheepnose I have seen is yellow in
color.  On a tip from another fruit-interested person, I talked with an
older man 2 years ago that owned Lathrop's original home orchard. When he
had purchased the home and orchard from the Lathrop's, it was comprised of
all his preserved varieties and some he had not "released" to the public.
This new owner then topworked most of the trees (as well as tearing out and
replanting many) so that only 3 or 4 of the preserved varieties remained.
Heron Breen     On Tue Mar 29 10:35 , Charles Paradise
<machelp@attglobal.net> sent:  > > > >Sam mentioned the "knobs" found on the
blossom ends of RD,s.  >I have heard > >them referred to as "sugar lumps" or
something like that.  Probably >so named > >by an enterprising marketeer.
>The knobs on the bottom end I call "Sheep-nosing".  The oldest apple >with
such protrusions on the bottom is "Sheepnose", I have tasted it grown >at
the Lathrop Davenport Preservation Orchard at Sturbridge Village, a
>historical village in Massachusetts. >The Sheepnose apple is similar to the
"Red Delicious" group, mealy, >low taste, origin Connecticut mid-1800's [if
I recall correctly]  >Scionwood should be available from Worcester County
Horticultural Society >scionwood distribution program.  I think it was a
deep red color.  >I have always assumed "Hawkeye" red delicious was a
seedling of "Sheepnose".   >S. Lathrop Davenport was a foremost New England
apple preserver of the >1940's, also was NNGA member, I have grafted from a
giant persian walnut >he planted.  S. Lathrop preserved the original-real
Macintosh, 20 >oz. pippen, Palmer Greening, etc. etc. >Charlie Paradise
Massachusetts >   _______________________________________________
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