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[Claude Sweet <hortventures@cox.net>]

There used to be a planting of about 30 mature carob trees that were 
planted in Vista, CA. As I recall they were planted in the 1930's to 
serve a trial various selections for possible commercial development. 
The quality of the pods was very poor due to the high humidity (the site 
is within 15 miles of the Pacific ocean).

Most of the efforts for commercial plantings centered in Baja 
California, but they were not successful do to the fact that they were 
not irrigated.  I don't recall any successful commercial plantings in 
coastal Southern California.

I saw several large carob trees that were still producing at a private 
Ag research station in Imperial County on the way to Yuma. It was just 
off highway 8 and in a sad state of neglect when I stopped by over 10 
years ago. They would have had access to plenty of water to irrigate.  
The dry desert climate would seem to have been ideal except for the late 
summer and early fall storms that sometimes come up from the Sea of 
Cortez and damage the date crops in Palm Springs.

Claude Sweet
San Diego, CA


rob hamilton wrote:

> Lon do you know of anyone who has tried to cross Carob
> with honey locust (assuming it can be crossed)to get
> more hardyness out of the carob tree or more pulp from
> honey locust?
>
> Robert
>
> --- "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com> wrote:
>  
>
> > I used to eat Carob pods regularly and can relate
> > from experience that it's
> > the pod itself, not the seed, that is used for carob
> > powder.  The pod is
> > extremely thick and full of sugars and when dry, is
> > quite sugary inside,
> > while the seeds are extremely hard and if not
> > actually inedible, are so hard
> > and make up such a small volume compared to the pod,
> > I can't see using them.
> > The native Honey Locust is very similar, though it
> > doesn't have as much
> > sweet pulp as the carob.
> >  Carob is grown as a street tree in parts of
> > California, but it takes a
> > long, dry season to mature the pods well.  Any rain
> > on it when it is mature
> > and the pods quickly go sour and spoil.  I believe
> > there were (are?) a
> > couple of commercial growers in southern California,
> > but it has been a
> > while, so I don't remember who they are now.
> >
> >
> > The Carob Tree/Egyptian Thorn, Ceratoria siliqua,
> > another leguminous tree,
> > yields seeds from which Carob Powder is derived, is
> > used as a cocoa
> > substitute by those seeking to
> > avoid  theobromine and caffeine.
> >
> >
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