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  • From: Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] persimmon death
  • Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:13:03 -0500

At 07:07 PM 5/21/2003 -0500, Donna wrote:
Lucky has sent me a number of native persimmons to graft onto existing
saplings. Two scions were from kaki x native trees, Geneva Long and
Rosseyanka.

Geneva Long has been postulated by some(John Gordon, in particular) to be a D.v.XD.kaki hybrid, but no one has done the genetic analysis to confirm it. Likewise, Prok, another large-fruited selection has been suggested by some to be a hybrid. Geneva Long, in my orchard, is tending to have a shorter, more densely branching growth pattern, similar to the known hybrids, Rosseyanka and Keener.
Got my Keener scions from Cliff England a couple of years back, and they had black streaks running all through the wood/cambium. Can't recall at this point in time if I had any problems with any of the grafts, but I've got at least two healthy young Keeners growing in their permanent locations at the present. Keener looks good, but Rosseyanka had quite a bit of dieback - most of last year's growth didn't leaf out, but it's putting out vigorous new shoots from 2-yr wood.

Actually my definition of a good persimmon tree was one that
someone else mows under, till I discovered that there are indeed some really
bad persimmons out there.
Indeed, there are. Most of the ripe natives I've ever sampled were pretty good, and I can't say that I can really ascertain any particular difference in taste, though the '816' tree I routinely gather from(might be Early Golden or Meader, as it's sort of a 'specimen' tree in the middle of a small residential yard up the street from my office, with a number of other fruit trees in the backyard) are sweeter than any other I've had a chance to eat - and usually is dropping ripe fruits around 20 Sept. There is one tree that I've watched on my trips back and forth to main campus(120 mile round trip) that produces big, flattened fruits that hang well on the tree, but even after repeated freeze/thaw cycles, they're still 'spitters'. Yuk!

Lucky







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