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["Raby, Brian {20-4~Indianapolis}" <BRIAN.RABY@ROCHE.COM>]

Working one year in the landscaping business, I've learned about how to properly pack the plants on our trucks before traveling to the site to work.  I see these tall trees that these stores sell and I can imagine people loading these tall trees into their vans, pickups, etc, and go whipping down the highway at sixty miles an hours, wind-burning the heck out them.  No wonder the plants don't survive!  I think it's up to the nursery people that sell and bring the plants to the Home Depots, the Lowes, etc.. to teach/instruct these places about informing the consumer about properly placing a cover over the plants before they take off for home.  The people that work at the do-all, sell-all places are temps that don't know the first things about plants.

 

Brian

Sheridan, IN

-----Original Message-----
From: Lon J. Rombough [mailto:lonrom@hevanet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:23 PM
To: nafex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [nafex] marketer's mirage

There's the beauty of it (from the seller's viewpoint) - most people who buy
such monsters blame themselves when the trees fail, so the store never has
to cough up for selling something ridiculous like that.  They'd be better
off, and only a couple of years slower, to plant from seed and give the
seedling GOOD care.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, more, plus word on my grape book at
http://www.hevanet.com/lonrom 

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>From: Ginda Fisher <ginda@concentric.net>
>To: nafex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [nafex] marketer's mirage
>Date: Wed, May 9, 2001, 5:57 PM
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>Marketing woes are hardly limited to fruit trees.  I was at the Home
>Despot the other day.  Their nursery building was full of giant trees.
>I mean, trees 20 feet tall and more.  Not a lot of branches (tied up, so
>maybe more than I could see) and even less root.  They had burlaped root
>balls maybe two feet across.
>
>I find it hard to believe these things are going to prosper, especially
>if purchased by homeowners who probably won't think the water them every
>day for two years.
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>If they had labels, I couldn't find them.  (I did see price tags.
>$150-$200.)  Honey locusts, a few types of maple, birch.  All fully
>leafed out.
>
>Ginda
>
>Thomas Olenio wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Speaking of a "marketer's mirage", 90% of the apple trees at one local
>> nursery are "collection" trees.  They each carry 4 grafts of various
>> apple varieties.
>>
>> It is funny...  When I talk to the nurseryman they tell me there is less
>> and less interest in fruit.
>>
>> With selections like a "collection" apple, which is bound to produce an
>> unusual, unbalanced tree, which will most likely dissapoint the grower, it
>> is no wonder there is less interest in fruit.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Olenio
>> Ontario, Hardiness Zone 6a
>>
>> On Wed, 9 May 2001, dwalsh/wchase wrote:
>>
>> > Joe,
>> >
>> > I agree that the columnar apple trees are a marketer's mirage.  The
>ones I've seen
>> > definitely grow branches and these must be cut off early and the person
>who buys
>> > this does not know it ... result is a dwarf semi-branched apple tree with
>> > bland-tasting fruit.
>> >
>> > Also, they are marketed as stand-alone apple trees, but they are not
>self-fertile.
>> >
>> > Derry
>> >
>> > Derry Walsh & Bill Chase  email:wchase@interchange.ubc.ca
>> > Aldergrove,  B. C.,  Canada
>> > phone/fax (604) 856-9316
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>> > Home web page  http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/wchase/HTML
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>> > : My two cents is that the columnar form stinks for raising quality
>> > : fruit.  One vertical with
>> > : many 6" side branches and fruit on side branches.  Roger's kept pushing
>> > : vigorous side branches at 30 degrees from vertical which then competed
>> > : with the central leader.  Stark's response was that the grower had to
>> > : prune them to make them look like the picture in the catalog.  Roger was
>> > : put-out because he could prune *any* tree to look like the picture.
>> > :
>> > Columnar apples are an
>> > : bad idea that was some Madison Avenue types used as a gimmick to foist
>> > : trees onto the naive public.
>> >
>> > :
>> > :                                             -Joe Hecksel
>> > :                                              Eaton Rapids, Michigan
>> >
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