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- From: "Rick Tracy" <rick@westcoastframe.com>
- To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [MSAR] Evacuation plans
- Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 07:47:14 -0700
Irv, I couldn’t agree with you more on
the evacuation plan and defensible space. This wildfire season
isn’t by any means normal or isolated to I agree also that if you were to put in a
large water supply on your property you could increase your chances to save
your house and barn with the addition of a foam system and prep the area around
the buildings as well as the buildings to possibly save them. Most foam agents
for Class A type fuels (wood) only require .3% of concentrate. So
you’re effectively making 3000 gallons of water into 100,000
gallons. Some wildfires move so fast that you wouldn’t have a time
to prepare. An automatic watering system may also help, just turn it on
before you leave. I read an interesting article not long ago
about why one home was untouched but the neighboring homes were destroyed, even
though they were built the same way. As the heat approaches the home, the
windows will break allowing the embers to enter the home and it will burn from
the inside out. It just happened that the home without damage had all of the
windows in place. I also have seen a new product that is metal shades
that you would close before leaving to keep the embers out. I haven’t
seen real world results but this may just add another way of protection.
Nothing is 100% effective but every little bit can help. Keeping water trucks close by are an ok
idea, but any fire should be left to the professionals. There is more to
fire fighting fire than spraying water on it. If you look back at history
with wildfires, most of the people who lost their lives was due to the intense
heat burning their lungs, not the actual fire. The reason you don’t
see aircraft (ARFF) unit on fires is because the units are just too wide to
access most driveways or secondary roads. Yes they carry 3000 gallons of
water but will empty the tank is 3 minutes. They are made to flood an
area around an aircraft or puncture the fuselage of the aircraft quickly.
Evacuation plans need to be practiced and
followed especially when you have horses, this adds another element of
complications that most people don’t have to worry about. It is
always a good idea to have a predetermined meeting place, holding pens etc
ready when the emergency happens. This isn’t just related to fire,
it could be for a number of natural disasters. To attempt to stay put may
cost you more then your lives but the other who have to rescue those individuals.
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[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN The evacuation best plan is the plan you
don’t have to use. It is difficult to prevent random events, like lightning
or blow downs, but you can minimize their consequences on your property.
Keeping the barriers clear of fuel, putting in larger water tanks, using fire
resistive materials for buildings reduce consequences. It is not just
defending your space but keeping your space from being threatened in the first
place. Given that what was a 100 year event is
now happening every 10 years or less (floods, fires, droughts) you should start
thinking in terms of a 500 year storm. Many housing developments with limited
water sources are installing large underground tanks and filling them slowly
during off peak hours from their system and providing fire department connections for pump out and
refill. Having 30,000 gallons of water in a secure location can
help. Also, having a low flow wet down system to cover your roof will
save your barn and help with smoke. Steel will melt, and it reradiates
the heat. Concrete will spall and holds the heat. Adding a
relatively low concentration agent (1%) will stretch the water supply
considerably and make it wetter. Your community should look into
obtaining large water tank trucks or surplus airport crash trucks as they are
designed to operate off road and to carry as much as 3000 gallons of water,
operated by one person. As to evacuating—you have to leave
early and stay away until it is really over. You leave when the fire
starts, not when the deputy says, “get out NOW!!!” My horse
never wanted to load when we went on a camping trip or a day ride. Maybe
it was because he was leaving home and was expecting to work 8 – 12 hours
that day. He was in the stock trailer when it rolled over one day.
Despite being in the middle of an 8 lane interstate on Memorial Day weekend at
the baseball stadium exit he calmly walked down the roadway to an off ramp and
waited for another trailer. The he loaded into a much smaller, side by
side ramp load that belonged to the mounted police unit and let strangers take
him to a strange barn for the night. When it was time to go home he
loaded without a flinch into a third trailer. He doesn’t mind
loading, he hates not being able to unload until you let him. And he
doesn’t like the water in strange places either. Irv Lichtenstein From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]
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Re: [MSAR] Evacuation plans,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 07/01/2011
- Re: [MSAR] Evacuation plans, Rick Tracy, 07/01/2011
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