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- From: "IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN" <ilichten1@verizon.net>
- To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [MSAR] Have a heart-- EMS protocols
- Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:39:00 -0400
I have been teaching CPR and later AED
since 1972 for the Red Cross and other agencies. Approximately every 5
years the course material is reviewed after the periodic conference of the ARC,
AHA, cardiologists, and later on the orthopedists who got involved with
neck and spine concerns. Getting the new material produced and updating every
volunteer instructor in the country takes a while so the courses being taught
are often 12-24 months behind the conference highlights. There are different causes for circulation
to fail. Fibrillation causes an ineffective compression of the heart but
can often be “reset” by an AED, a manual defib, a pacer, or other
device and drugs used in advanced life support. Thrombosis, a blockage of
a blood vessel, is treated by clot busters and or procedures involving
catheters, or surgical reconstruction of the blood vessel. A complete stoppage
with no electrical activity (flatline) is also possible. Most AED’s
cannot handle flatline. In either case, survival without advanced
care is doubtful. CPR was designed to circulate oxygenated blood to
the brain to keep the patient salvageable until ALS services arrived. We
teach cycles of 30 compressions, up from 15, for single rescuers today because
they can increase blood flow. However, we still emphasize a viable airway
so that whether ventilation is used or the rescuer relies on the bellows effect
(we used to call this arm lift) oxygen gets in and respiration products get
out. Each revision of the course takes into
account reality. Most lay persons will never do CPR for real. Most
providers will do it often enough that more advanced techniques requiring 2 or
more rescuers and equipment can be reviewed every 2 years without loss of
skills. Lay techniques are simplified so that the same practices are used
on infants, children, and adults, which increases retention. As to your responsibilities as a SAR
person, they are set out in your state’s emergency medical protocols and
based on your agency’s level of care (none, exempt, first responder, BLS,
ALS, ILS, pre-hospital medical professional, etc.) usually defined by a state Much can be made of the In the past because SAR did not use ambulances
it was exempt from Our unit policy was, and probably will
remain, that a subject found pulseless, cold and with the event not observed by
the responders; DNR, call the medical examiner and cordon off the area for the
investigators. This may sound cruel but it stops people from trying to
revive subjects who have killed themselves by various means and avoids someone
else having to pull the plug later on. The exception is cold water
drowning where the local protocol is to transport to a trauma center for
rewarming, regardless, with declarations being made on warm
subjects. Our volunteers’ job description (and even volunteers are
employees in PA) includes finding search subjects and rendering first aid as
possible pending arrival of more capable response. This does give them a
duty to act, but that action may be very limited and is based on how they
evaluate the situation, their capabilities, and the subject who is about to
become a patient. Irv Lichtenstein, EMT-B Chief of Operations From:
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[MSAR] Have a heart!,
Karen Nesbitt, 10/05/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Have a heart!,
Yvette Rollins, 10/08/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Have a heart!,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 10/08/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Have a heart!,
Jeff Hasse, 10/09/2010
- Re: [MSAR] Have a heart-- EMS protocols, IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 10/09/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Have a heart!,
Jeff Hasse, 10/09/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Have a heart!,
IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 10/08/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Have a heart!,
Yvette Rollins, 10/08/2010
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