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1. Emaciated Horses in Illinois..
(Karen Nesbitt)
2. Re: Emaciated Horses in
Illinois... (
pennbo@verizon.net)
3.
Re: Emaciated Horses in Illinois... (Mark
Thompson)
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:47:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen
Nesbitt <
spanishequines@yahoo.com>
To:
"Mounted search and rescue in Illinois USA."
<
msar-il@lists.ibiblio.org>,
MSAR <
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Subject:
[MSAR] Emaciated Horses in Illinois...
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>From Net
Posse:
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Emaciated Horse found...
?
Equine
breed: Unknown
Equine Color: Sorrel / Chestnut
Equine Gender:
Mare
Equine Height Measure: 14.3 - 15 hands
Equine Weight
Measure: 500 pounds (very underweight)
Equine Age Measures: aged
(possibly 30)
Agency Name: Hamilton County Sheriff's
Office
Agency Main Phone: 317-776-4110
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YOU CAN HELP:
Contact the Sheriff's office if you have any information regarding
this mare or if you witnessed her being turned loose.
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FOR
MORE DETAILS AND PHOTO...
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http://www.netposse.com/stolenmissing/SecretoGAmissingAug2010.html?
A
Paso Fino gelding was also spooked and lost with a saddle and should
be on that same thread.
?
Been witnessing some owners with way
too many and way too thin horses in Illinois, Indiana??and
elsewhere??lately too.? Its discusting.
?
People have too many,
are hardly around or when they are, they still have too much to
handle,? or are just plain?too lacking in knowledge to handle their
problems or some dont even know what a TOO THIN horse looks like.?
They breed horses like rabbits unmindful of the downed markets, have
more stallions, no less more mares?than they need or can care for or
their alleged??market bears, they?forget how long and how much time it
takes to care for and to get a foal grown to be a horse under saddle
and have barn fulls of horses that are not worked and idle and that
they cannot sell or feed properly.?They are unmindful how long a well
cared for animal will live and when they find themselves unable to
manage them, the rest of the herd gets thin, abused and neglected?and
owners literally are trying to starve? them or feed them so they colic
and die.?And some of these places have been malkept for many years and
the humane societies have been there
numerous times getting no
where.???Horses can live well into their late 30's and older if well
taken care of.? Ponies live much longer.
?
Old horses do not
have to be thin.? Horses get thin from not being wormed, neglect,
cribbing,?improper diets, bad teeth?and a mirrade of other issues, but
mostly, owners that do not know how to feed properly.?There are
injured animals, animals so full of burrs in manes and tails, they
never get brushed and so forth.? People put too many horses on a
property it cannot support, they dont know how to take care of the
land to support the animals its fit for and are too lazy to take care
of them when they get overboard and HORD.? Places are falling down,
fencing is poor from animal traffic, pasture is pathetic, manure never
gets cleaned up, places are vermine ridden, bug infested?and?the list
goes on.? Places are unfit for a dog.? Lately its been hot and owners
are too lazy to get out and do their jobs with their animals.? Or they
will skim on total care.
?
As a society, we have problems, and
one of them is fast becoming that the humane societies are full..
they cannot take them all and that is why some remain with owners that
do not or will not take care of them and the animals suffer more..
its a real shame and gets pretty?sad when the?Humane Society cannot
even follow up reports.? Some peolple just do not get it.? And the
abuse still goes on.? Some animals are caught up in domestic violence
situations too.? And another sad part, is some of these people get
their jollies on abusing the animals and abusing people
too.
?
The people that turned that poor mare?loose in Indiana
should be put in jail in my opinion.
?
Another humane issue, it
gets pretty pathetic when a bunch of folks go to a sale barn hoping to
sell and nothing is moving.?So many barns these days are literally
pony mills.? People need to wise up, pull the reins in on breeding and
take better care of stock they have.? Perhaps too , some need to give
up a show or two and stay home to take care of what they got.? I see
barns with one or two horses that they show and are halfway cared
for??and then the rest that they own they have10-20 others that are
pathetically neglected.
While they go to shows, their barns fall
apart and the animals at home remain totally??neglected.
?
Race
horse breeds like the thoroubred and AQHA, Paint, Arab and?others
?
chronically perpetuate flooding the gambling?sport??markets?with
horses that end up being rescues off the track or arena, or
pen??because racing and other events?allows for running stock too
young and unfit for the sport, horses are abused?in the cutting arena,
show arena and the list goes on.??? For just about every one good
racehorse, or show horse, there are probably 50 to 100 or more others
that are worthless on the?turf, arena or ranch?and not enough owners
to acquire them.When a guy comes up? and says he has a $50,000 horse
and the rest of the herd and the place looks like crap, its a helluva
a bad sales pitch?to dig for dollars and beleive that line of bull in
a bear market.? Prices like that tell me the guy does not want to sell
anything when the stable looks like dung and he cant take care of a
horse that valuable to start with yet alone with a barn full of
others.
The saddest part of this is that when some person does
have a horse that has been a companion for a really long time and the
owner wants and really deserves to keep?the horse and has no means.?
They have owned the animal for a long time and are up in years
themselves and their kids cant take them either. Those people dont
deserve their animals taken away, they need help and there is no links
card for these horsemen for their horses on welfare.
?
What is
sadder yet is that some of the rescue barns are on hard times and cant
feed them either.
?
Anyone buying horses these days better do
some good homework before they end up in the same mess some of these
other owners are.? Boarding? is not cheap, insurance is not cheap and
feeding them is not cheap and it is a lot easier to buy than sell?
Thats a fact of life in the horse industry and has been for as long as
there has been prices on horses.? And have your priorities straight.?
Owning a horse gives you a lot less riding time than renting.? If you
work, you best ask yourself??just how much time can you devote to one
horse, yet alone a barn full of 10-20 or 30?? Your barn is your home
for your horse and it requires a lot of care too.?? And if you board,
if the stable closes, where will?that leave you?
?
The
bottomline is if you cannot afford to keep their home in upkeep, then,
dont breed or buy them.? Falling on hard times is one thing, but being
downright stupid is another.?
?
?
??????? Karen Nesbitt - VMSAR -
Iroqouis County - Illinois
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:59:33 -0500 (CDT)
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:50:31 -0500
From: "Mark Thompson"
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To:
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Subject:
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My thoughts also
Chris.
Mark
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From:
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To:
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Subject:
Re: [MSAR] Emaciated Horses in Illinois...
Maybe I'm
missing the point but what does this have to do with MSAR? Much of
what you say is truth but the question is not what's wrong but what
are we each doing to fix it? Still, I really don't think this is the
right forum for this discussion.
Chris
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