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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:01:57 EDT
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[MSAR] Hasty Mounted Team?
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We did a 10 mile endurance
qualification ride today. We went out in 3 team,
slow, gaited fast,
and holy cow watch out for those girls fast. Our
requirements
are 10 miles in 2.5 hours. Not hard for the slow group even. But I
wanted to see if my fast group could cover it in an hour an a
half so that
we could tell our call out people that we have
horses that can cover that
area in a fraction of the time as
long as we are just checking trails, ya
know a hasty team.
Please be assured that we didn't do anything I would deem
unsafe, the lead
horse (mine) is great at changing gaits
quickly and dependably. It went
something like trot, trot,
trot, canter, "Rocks" walk, trot, trot, gallop,
"mud" trot,
etc....
It was great to know that I have a group that can make it
in 1 hour and 20
mins, we could cut it down to 1 hour I think,
we had 3, 5 minute pauses for
various reasons.
Anyone else
have hasty teams in place? How are they received in your
area?
Ann Taylor
Clark County Mounted Search and
Rescue
Vancouver, WA
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Date: Sun,
14 Jun 2009 07:56:27 -0400
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Re: [MSAR] Hasty Mounted Team?
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Good job on you training
ride! Your exercise sounds like a great way
for validating a
horse and rider's endurance level. We have hasty teams
too,
but for our team we identified the need to find the right balance
of
performance with thoroughness when conducting a Hasty
Search. I am
sure most folks will agree that in a
SAR operation we need to find the
victim as quickly as possible. A
thorough search has a higher
Probability of Detection (POD), but
takes longer (assuming you're
looking for a live victim this time
can mean the difference between a
rescue and a recovery). A
Hasty Search is light and fast- we send out a
smaller team to scour
the area for obvious clues (NASAR training has
taught our team
members to look for clues not people).
Studies have shown at
speeds above 5 mph the effects of tunnel vision
occurs, which
generally means clues just off the trail begin to get
missed.
Great job on the ride! Just curious, at 5 mph you are
traveling at a slow trot. I would think as you
said tunnel vision would be a liability between ducking and dodging
trees or having to watch terrain too. Here is where a smooth
gaited horse would come in handy because there is no trot. You are
more able to concentrate on both sides of the trail and
ahead without the concentration of posting as well and it takes
less physical activity to ride a smooth gaited horse vs any
trotter. Performance pasos can move out at speeds well over 5 MPH
peaking at speeds in their gait at close to thirty (30) MPH and their
endurance goes without saying. I am not sure what the walkers and
racking horses speeds are, but I am sure they are comparable.
Just curious, is 5MPH the recommended speed or is a hasty team
required to move on out faster if that is possible? How is the
speed determined by the leader? The leader would seemingly be
scouting more the terrain for the riders to follow, thus the
calling out of speed and turf. While I can see no distarctions to
the leader as he/she negotiates the terrain and such calling back to the
riders following, I can see the following riders a tad beign distracted
in the change of pace or turf call as it happens. Their
anticipation of the call would take some attention away to their
searching.
Having done endurance, depending on the trail your average speeds
can run up to 7 mph and maybe more. Familiarity of the trail has a
great deal to do with it and of course the element of competition.
As there is no competition on a hasty team, then I guess my question
would be, is the speed typically about 5mph or is the pace
quicker? What is the speed even at a gallop/canter or any gait
used if it is a breed other than a trotter? What difference
would it make to the team if a person is ridig at a gallop or a gait or
a trot if the speed was maintained? Is that also a distraction to
the other riders?