Mounted search and rescue

[Jeff Ezell <eztech@pdq.net>]

As "preparation for the new search season" would it hurt to formally followup with the "officials" to be sure that a new search wouldn't be delayed? The next delay could cost a life. I guess nobody will ever know if it did in this case?

Remember the Kim case in OR? The final road they traveled down and got trapped on was supposed to be closed and locked but the "officials" didn't do it, but thought it had been done. It was reported that the official sent to lock it in the fall didn't because "if there was somebody down that road at the time they couldn't get out". [Drive down the road and see then lock it sounds like the easy solution.] Hopefully that procedure has changed as well.

The simplest things can sometime cost lives...or save them.

Jeff

On Wed Jun 6 19:16 , Randy Nelson <randy@jackson-county-sheriffs-posse.org> sent:

We have not recovered the body yet, we think he is in one of two locations... winter came in, lots of snow. Yes, I believe the officials learned....  well, I hope so.

 

 

Jeff Ezell <eztech@pdq.net> wrote:

 Randy - was the lost boy found in spite of these impediments to the search? Has the preplanning been done so the officials are able to handle this for the next search and accept all search resources benefitting the search?

Jeff



On Wed Jun 6 15:09 , Randy Nelson <randy@jackson-county-sheriffs-posse.org> sent:

True, we too have a National Park ( Crater Lake Nat. Park) and had problems last year looking for a lost boy, they did call SAR, but took them almost 36 hrs to get the ok for the horse, then it took us 2 hrs to drive there, then we had to stay on paved roads, to search. took another day to get the ok to go off road with horses to search, first time any horses been in the park free to roam anywhere in 70 years.

IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN <ilichten1@verizon.net> wrote:

All of Pennsylvania is volunteer SAR and over 90% of the fire and most of the EMS ia also.  That didn’t stop us from adopting ICS statewide over 10 years ago and NIMS last year.  All our responses involve multiple jurisdictions, multiple agencies, and often several agencies claim jurisdiction over the same land.  For instance, we have a national park that is concurrently under two townships (in two different counties), the state police, and the National Park Service and the FBI often shows up because it is a federal reservation and in sight of a major defense contractor’s plant.  All our state parks are under the jurisdiction of the township, state, and the state park rangers (who are accredited peace officers).  In most of the suburbs the local cops turn it over to the volunteer fire company, and then they call SAR resources. 

 

Without the use of unified command and ICS we would have the biggest mess ever seen.  And there is no law in Pennsylvania giving any one agency authority to look for missing or lost persons. Consider yourself lucky that the sheriff is in charge by statute, saves a lot of arguments.

 

Irv Lichtenstein

 

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From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Randy Nelson
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most of Oregon MSAR/SAR are volunteers, Under the state laws, each county Sheriff is responsible for all search & rescue missions, Most SAR will have Sheriff Deputy over looking all searches.

 

 

Randy Nelson, EMT-I

Training Officer

Jackson County Sheriff's Posse

 

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