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  • From: joehler AT email.arizona.edu
  • To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: [Market-farming] restaurants
  • Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 11:08:50 -0700

Hello Lucy,
Thank you very much for this post, it was very informative. Especially, thanks for the advice on the behavior of chefs, this will be very helpful.

Jim

At 12:03 PM 10/05/2003 -0400, you wrote:

Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:20:11 -0400
From: Lucy Goodman <goodows AT infinet.com>
Subject: [Market-farming] Hints for selling to restaurants
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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It seems we have many people on this list who want to start selling to
restaurants.
I have been on both sides of the restaurant coin, I have managed
kitchens (which means I got to do the ordering) and I have grown and
sold to kitchens.

as far as I know as long as you are not selling meat or value added
items (baked or canned goods) there are no permits or licensing needed
in the US in order to sell to a restaurant.

To start you will be cold calling. When you do this be sure to speak
only with the head chef. This is the person in charge of the menus and
food ordering, i.e. the person who makes ALL food decisions at the
restaurant. Do not talk with the owner or manager unless this person is
also the head chef. If the chef is not there than ask when would be a
good time to come back.

Never Ever make a call or delivery of any kind during lunch or dinner.
Lunch is 11 am to 2pm and dinner is 4pm to 8pm in most fine dinning
restaurants. come in during these hours and in most cases you will be
asked to never come back for any reason. These are the Crunch hours at a
restaurant. This is perhaps the most important rule to selling to
restaurants-respecting their hours.

When you show up for the first time bring along samples of what you have
plus farm info, contact info and a sheet with what you will have through
the year and when. be sure to get the chef's contact info especially
email so you can easily update what you have weekly. If the restaurant
has not been buying local food you will have to educate the chef and
cooks on how to deal with fresh food. Restaurants, like most cooking
endeavors has gone to preprocessed/frozen food and many kitchens have
cooks that are trained to open packages and heat things not actually
cook. The days of kitchens with cooks that cook from scratch are
becoming a thing of the past.

I have noticed that a few kitchens I have dealt with start out excited
about using locally grown foods (it is popular right now) but that
excitement fades as they realize they don't know how to deal with fresh
whole food so they quit ordering without any explanation (I figure they
do this out of embarrassment as a chef of a good restaurant it is
assumed does know all about all foods).

Most fine dinning restaurants are small places and do not order all that
much food. Don't depend on one for all your sales. The one we deal with
will order $20 to $50 worth of food most weeks. Occasionally we will get
a huge order of $75. They like dealing with small farmers because they
can get small amounts of things like tomatoes-10 pounds rather than a 25
pound case or 2 bunches of radishes instead of a whole case, etc..

I have found that most chefs are truly thankful for a source for fresh
local sustainable food But they are chefs and tend to be the prima donna
type-they will be just great one week and the next week you may rub the
chef the wrong way and be sent away amid a flood of expletives. If this
happens it is best to yell back at the chef and tell him (most chefs are
hims) you are not an employee and if he doesn't like the food you can
just leave and never come back. Usually you will get a call asking for
forgiveness and to come back. From spending well over a decade working
for such people I realize this is kitchen culture-treat the employees
like slaves and the chefs like Gods.

Once you have an account with a restaurant you will need to figure out
what to charge. For high quality chefs will pay higher prices but they
have to keep the cost of food under 20% of the total budget or they will
go out of business. Get a copy of the menu to see what they are charging
and if possible also get a price list from their main food purveyor to
see what they are used to paying for.

As for what to grow talk to the chef and see what they want.


Lucy Goodman
Boulder Belt Organics
New Paris, OH
Check out the Boulder Belt website:
http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/boulderbeltcsa
"There is no way to peace---peace is the way."
A.J. Muste


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