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  • From: "Tom Jasperson" <frshstrt AT baldwin-telecom.net>
  • To: <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Cc: frshstrt AT baldwin-telecom.net
  • Subject: [Market-farming] Re:More on Insurance
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:05:55 -0500

Shirley, Strange that you are insured by state Farm for your liability-
When I needed liability for my nursery and greenhouse we lost our homeowners
because State Farm still won't cover a greenhouse business. Lu Jasperson
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> 1. Re: New Member (robert schuler)
> 2. Re: soil prep was Re: [Market-farming] Drip Irrigation
> (David Guthrie)
> 3. straw mulch (Andrews, Shirley F.)
> 4. insurance (Andrews, Shirley F.)
> 5. RE: PURSLANE, (bob AT bidumup.com)
> 6. Re: Pam for corn earworms (robert schuler)
> 7. Re: Another new member (bob AT bidumup.com)
> 8. RE: Another new member (Andrews, Shirley F.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:44:47 -0400
> From: robert schuler <sunnfarm AT bellatlantic.net>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] New Member
> To: ben AT longbeachorganic.org, Market Farming
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> I was faced with the same circumstances 30 years ago, living on a suburban
> lot with a 10x10 garden, I went out and bought a farm and have lived
> happily ever after...Bob.
> Sunny Meadow Farm
> Bridgeton, NJ.
>
> "ben AT longbeachorganic.org" wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I live in Long Beach, California and for the first time since high
> > school I have a place to garden. I got involved in a community garden
> > organization and soon discovered that my love for raising food was
> > bigger than I knew. I'm crystal clear that I want to be a market
> > garden. Problem is that I don't have a clue as to how to get started.
> >
> > My house has a tiny garden space - 16 inched wide by 22 feet long. That
> > is where my edibles garden is. I also have veggies in container in the
> > concrete backyard (not much sun there) and out front. So space is a
> > premium.
> >
> > So my questions are:
> >
> > How does one get started when they really don't have the space? What
> > can you grow for sale that can be grown in very small spaces or
> > containers for market? Any of those things grow in shade? (if I can use
> > the shady side of the house I'd would have more container growing
> > area).
> >
> > Anything you guys could tell me to help would be awesome.
> >
> > Benjamin
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:08:12 -0500
> From: "David Guthrie" <dguthrie AT egyptian.net>
> Subject: Re: soil prep was Re: [Market-farming] Drip Irrigation
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Liz:
>
> I've used the book you mentioned a lot. Would you advocate incorporating
> covers and green manure in fallowed ground? There seems to be some debate
> on whether or not or how much to work or till the ground with covers.
What
> could you tell me about sheet composting? I have several acres I want to
do
> something like that without tillage. I have sown a lot of clovers the
last
> three years and used no chemicals whatsoever for 5.
>
> David Guthrie
> dguthrie AT egyptian.net
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Liz Pike <liz AT laughingbrookfarm.com>
> To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:41 AM
> Subject: soil prep was Re: [Market-farming] Drip Irrigation
>
>
> > One of the best things you can do to build the soil is to start
> > incorporating cover crops & green manures into your production schedule.
> > (If there's anyway to take your land out of production--can't remember
if
> > you're growing already or just starting, sorry--and just concentrate on
a
> > year of these, you'll see a major difference also. You can work them
into
> > your cropping schedule, like I used to do, but that year will give you a
> > major advantage over insects, fertility, water retention, etc.)
> >
> > Here's a recent article in which you may be interested.
> >
> > ftp://ftp-fc.sc.egov.usda.gov/NC/NCweb/Technical/sqnl/sqnl-4-03.pdf
> >
> > Though the article deals with no-till production on small acreage, Alex
> says
> > alot about the use of a cover crop rotation to build his soil quality.
> > Their farm is one of the best producing here in NC.
> >
> > Here's also a link to a book put out by SARE "Managing Cover Crops
> > Profitably". It's in html format, with embedded pdf...you can save the
> pdf
> > to your harddrive. http://www.sare.org/handbook/mccp2/index.htm
> >
> > Liz Pike
> > Laughingbrook Farm
> > Westfield NC
> > http://www.marketfarming.com
> > http://www.laughingbrookfarm.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:28:39 -0400
> From: "Andrews, Shirley F." <SAndrews AT AcademicBookServices.com>
> Subject: [Market-farming] straw mulch
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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> For us beginners could you elaborate more about straw. If we have to
> purchase it what do we look for? I assume there must be straw without
> seed in it? If you grow your own is there a special time you cut it to
> use for mulch. Thanks.
>
> Shirley Andrews
> Controller
> Academic Book Services
> Kudzu Book Traders
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:31:52 -0400
> From: "Andrews, Shirley F." <SAndrews AT AcademicBookServices.com>
> Subject: [Market-Farming] insurance
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> In regard to the questions about insurance I believe a 'personal
> liability' policy is what you are looking for. I have a 2million policy
> for 360 per year available in the south from State Farm.
>
> Shirley Andrews
> Controller
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:42:54 -0500
> From: <bob AT bidumup.com>
> Subject: RE: [Market-farming] PURSLANE,
> To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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>
> I had forgotten that purslane is commonly used in Mexico. I think it's
> called "verdulaga"
> The stores here in Texas spell it " verdolaga" and it sells in Carnival
> Stores for $1.25 for a large 1-2 lb bunch.
> Bob C
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:43:29 -0400
> From: robert schuler <sunnfarm AT bellatlantic.net>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Pam for corn earworms
> To: art AT complum.com, Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <3EEE2BEF.40F5F020 AT bellatlantic.net>
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> > I guess applying Pam would work if you have 20 corn plants but not
very
> > profitable in a market crop. I tried hand applied oil on a 1/2 acre many
years
> > ago and it helped but had no effect on worms that bore in the sides of
the
> > ears. Here is something that might work, About ten years ago pepper
growers in
> > my county began using stylet oil to prevent aphids transmitting virsus
into
> > our papper crops. We applied the oil at 500 psi with a Hypro 2 gpm 1800
rpm
> > piston pump. This applied the oil in a very uniform coating on the whole
plant.
> > I think a directed spray to the ear zone with oil at high psi would be a
good
> > option.
>
> > I prefer to apply a synthetic pyrenthroid at 1/4 ounce AI per acre every
3-4
> > days as silking begins usually 5 applications till silks turn brown is
all it
> > takes to get worm free corn. Check with your IPM guys before you do
> > anything...Bob. Sunny Meadow Farm
>
> Bridgeton, NJ.
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> >
> > Tell me more. I was going to put the time and money into spraying sweet
corn.
> > But this sounds like the window is minutes not days. If the end of the
silk
> > gets oil on it, then pollination will not occur, if I understand it
right.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:05:02 -0500
> From: <bob AT bidumup.com>
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Another new member
> To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <007d01c3344a$f4643ce0$72f3f5d1@bob>
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> When I was a kid I visited my uncle's place in N. Carolina while they
still grew tobacco. When harvest came - and they had certain criteria of
harvesting the right leaves- they would put them on a wooden kind of rack
that had rows then that was hung in a special barn like a smoke house. They
aged with no light coming in for a couple of months without anything being
added untill the leaf had achieved the right cure which was supposed to take
a considerable amount of knowledge to know. Then the leaves would be bundled
and sold in auction.
> Bob C
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judy Lynn
> To: Market Farming
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Another new member
>
>
> Wendy... I am also growing some Native American tobacco this year and
did some research, tobacco needs time to dry in order for it to not be so
harsh. The sites I saw reccomend a drier that would do the job quickly,
another said allow it to cure for about a year (dry on a screen so air can
circulate around it. I did see one site that said they allowed the leaves
to wilt in the sun for a couple of days to soften them. These were then
stripped from the stem, tied in bunches of about ten and hung upside down
indoors to dry.Once they were dry, they misted them with water to keep them
soft and pliant. They were misted two or three times a day, everyday, for
about a month. After a few weeks the leaves changed from yellow to a lovely
reddish brown colour and the room began to hum faintly of tobacco. then they
shredded the tobacco by pushing the leaves through a coffee grinder or a
kitchen blender..
> Judy
>
>
> <
> .... Only problem is, how do we turn a plant into smoking tobacco? We
know almost nothing. Can you point us to some info? Would really
appreciate some help. ..
> Wendy
> >
>
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> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:51:05 -0400
> From: "Andrews, Shirley F." <SAndrews AT AcademicBookServices.com>
> Subject: RE: [Market-farming] Another new member
> To: <bob AT bidumup.com>, "Market Farming"
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> You can still see these barns full of drying tobacco in NC especially if
> you drive through Madison County from Hot Springs. The ones I have seen
> are older barns 2-story with the tobacco in the top story. They are
> closed from the sun and you can only get a peek through the cracks of
> the drying tobacco.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bob AT bidumup.com [mailto:bob AT bidumup.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:05 PM
> To: Market Farming
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Another new member
>
> When I was a kid I visited my uncle's place in N. Carolina while they
> still grew tobacco. When harvest came - and they had certain criteria of
> harvesting the right leaves- they would put them on a wooden kind of
> rack that had rows then that was hung in a special barn like a smoke
> house. They aged with no light coming in for a couple of months without
> anything being added untill the leaf had achieved the right cure which
> was supposed to take a considerable amount of knowledge to know. Then
> the leaves would be bundled and sold in auction.
> Bob C
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Judy Lynn <mailto:hayesjl AT earthlink.net>
> To: Market Farming <mailto:market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Another new member
>
> Wendy... I am also growing some Native American tobacco this
> year and did some research, tobacco needs time to dry in order for it to
> not be so harsh. The sites I saw reccomend a drier that would do the
> job quickly, another said allow it to cure for about a year (dry on a
> screen so air can circulate around it. I did see one site that said
> they allowed the leaves to wilt in the sun for a couple of days to
> soften them. These were then stripped from the stem, tied in bunches of
> about ten and hung upside down indoors to dry.Once they were dry, they
> misted them with water to keep them soft and pliant. They were misted
> two or three times a day, everyday, for about a month. After a few weeks
> the leaves changed from yellow to a lovely reddish brown colour and the
> room began to hum faintly of tobacco. then they shredded the tobacco by
> pushing the leaves through a coffee grinder or a kitchen blender..
> Judy
>
>
> <
> .... Only problem is, how do we turn a plant into smoking
> tobacco? We know almost nothing. Can you point us to some info? Would
> really appreciate some help. ..
> Wendy
> >
>
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