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Diamond surface grinding wheel | PM Thread http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond-surface Thread: Diamond surface grinding wheel <http://www.practicalmachinist-grinding-wheel-139034/ .com/vb/general/diamond- surface-grinding-wheel-139034/ > AddThis Sharing Buttons Share to FacebookFacebookShare to TwitterTwitterShare to PinterestPinterestShare to MoreMore 1. 02-24-2007, 10:52 PM #1 <http://www.practicalmachinist .com/vb/general/diamond- > [image: crashtestdummy's Avatar] <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666207/#post666207 .com/vb/members/ > *crashtestdummy* <http://www.practicalmachinistcrashtestdummy/ .com/vb/members/ > [image: crashtestdummy is offline] Hot Rolled Join DateApr 2006LocationCedar City, UtahPosts910Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinistcrashtestdummy/ .com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)702Likes (Received)208 [image: Post] I have a surface grinder that has what I think is a diamond grinding wheel. The wheel appears to be partially loaded with some substance that may be affecting it's performance. How would you true up or clean a diamond grinding wheel? The only name I can find on it is a diamond shape followed by USDW, then a bunch of letters and numbers. Thanks. [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666207&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666207 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666207 .com/vb/report.php?p=666207 > 2. 3. 4. 02-24-2007, 11:55 PM #2 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > *toastydeath* <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666208/#post666208 .com/vb/members/toastydeath/ > [image: toastydeath is offline] Hot Rolled [image: Send a message via AIM to toastydeath] Join DateJan 2007LocationNewark, DEPosts722Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)0Likes (Received)8 [image: Post] What leads you to believe it's a diamond wheel? What are you trying to grind on the wheel? Post the letters and numbers. Superabrasive wheels are not usually a solid wheel. They're bonded to the edge of metal, or otherwise have a thin layer of abrasive with a large core of nonabrasive material. Wheels with a normal abrasive should take the following form: *Prefix - Abrasive - Grit - Grade - Structure - Bond - Suffix* example: *R - A - 40 - G - 10 - V - 843* R is a letter the manufacturer decided to use. A is the abrasive type, which stands for Aluminum Oxide (C is silicon carbide). 40 is the grit size of the abrasive (Higher number is finer grit). G is the grade, or how strong the bonding agent is and how readily it will decompose (A is soft, Z is hard). 10 is the structure, or porosity of the wheel (1 is dense, higher numbers are more porous). V is the bond type, or the kind of material used to bond the abrasive (V is a vitrified bond, the most common kind). For superabrasive wheels (Diamond and CBN) the formula differs slightly: </font> - *Prefix* - Abrasive (B or D)</font> - *Grit*</font> - *Grade*</font> - *Abrasive concentration* - Usually from 25 to 100. Low numbers means low concentration of abrasives.</font> - *Bond*</font> - *Bond modification* - Sometimes the bond is modified to work better in a specific superabrasive application. This is manufacturer dependent.</font> - *Abrasive depth* - Thickness of the wheel's abrasive layer. Specified in fractional inches or mm.</font> [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666208&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666208 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666208 .com/vb/report.php?p=666208 > 5. 6. 02-25-2007, 12:41 AM #3 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > [image: crashtestdummy's Avatar] <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666209/#post666209 .com/vb/members/ > *crashtestdummy* <http://www.practicalmachinistcrashtestdummy/ .com/vb/members/ > [image: crashtestdummy is offline] Hot Rolled Join DateApr 2006LocationCedar City, UtahPosts910Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinistcrashtestdummy/ .com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)702Likes (Received)208 [image: Post] The wheel is only .25 wide and has a metal hub, the abrasive part is about .20 thick. The wheel is used to grind quartz, .003 thick, glued with wax into .5" long lengths. I am away from work, so I can't give you the numbers off the wheel. One number I found interesting though was 22 1/8. Written that way. I will be back to work in the AM and will check the numbers. Thanks. My company is really bad about documenting stuff like what wheel this is and where it came from. They may have had this wheel for 20 years. [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666209&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666209 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666209 .com/vb/report.php?p=666209 > 7. 8. 02-25-2007, 02:12 AM #4 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > *toastydeath* <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666210/#post666210 .com/vb/members/toastydeath/ > [image: toastydeath is offline] Hot Rolled [image: Send a message via AIM to toastydeath] Join DateJan 2007LocationNewark, DEPosts722Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)0Likes (Received)8 [image: Post] Yeah, that sounds like a diamond wheel. Glad to see you aren't trying to grind steel, like a lot of people try to do with diamond. Also, I forgot to mention. There are specific dressing sticks for diamond wheels. They're made of aluminum oxide or silicon nitride. [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666210&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666210 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666210 .com/vb/report.php?p=666210 > 9. 10. 02-25-2007, 02:26 PM #5 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > *Arnie3* <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666211/#post666211 .com/vb/members/arnie3/ > [image: Arnie3 is offline] Aluminum Join DateDec 2006Locationspirit lake, iowaPosts83Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)0Likes (Received)0 [image: Post] Try Nortons N 5468779 89A 1206 4A V2 for dressing and cleaning the crud out of diamond wheels. 1"x 1" x 6" [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666211&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666211 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666211 .com/vb/report.php?p=666211 > 11. 12. 13. 02-25-2007, 02:40 PM #6 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > [image: Racer Al's Avatar] <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666212/#post666212 .com/vb/members/racer-al/ > *Racer Al* <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/members/racer-al/ > [image: Racer Al is offline] Stainless Join DateFeb 2006LocationOakland, California, USAPosts1,780Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)17Likes (Received)13 [image: Post] To put a slight hijack on the topic, I'm in the market to get a carbide grinder, and want a diamond wheel for it. How does the abrasive concentration affect performance? Is it strictly wear rate, or is it also cutting rate & finish quality? Clearly, it's about cost as well -- lower % concentration wheels are less expensive. [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666212&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666212 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666212 .com/vb/report.php?p=666212 > 14. 15. 02-25-2007, 03:52 PM #7 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > [image: JRouche's Avatar] <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666213/#post666213 .com/vb/members/jrouche/ > *JRouche* <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/members/jrouche/ > [image: JRouche is offline] Stainless Join DateAug 2004LocationSo. Cal.Posts1,490Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)0Likes (Received)4 [image: Post] The wheel is used to grind quartz, .003 thick, glued with wax into .5" long lengths. Is it wax gummed up on the wheel? Try a good solvent to disolve the wax? JRouche [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666213&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666213 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666213 .com/vb/report.php?p=666213 > 16. 17. 02-25-2007, 04:55 PM #8 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > *joeby* <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666214/#post666214 .com/vb/members/joeby/ > [image: joeby is offline] Cast Iron Join DateMar 2006CountryUNITED STATESState/ProvincePennsylvaniaPosts281Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinist .com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)2Likes (Received)10 [image: Post] We used molybdenum blocks to dress diamond. If you need to do a lot of dressing, a brake dresser works very well. If the wheel hasn't been damaged and just needs cleaned up, the Norton sticks, as Arnie3 mentioned, do a good job. Kevin [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666214&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666214 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666214 .com/vb/report.php?p=666214 > 18. 19. 02-25-2007, 04:56 PM #9 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > [image: crashtestdummy's Avatar] <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666215/#post666215 .com/vb/members/ > *crashtestdummy* <http://www.practicalmachinistcrashtestdummy/ .com/vb/members/ > [image: crashtestdummy is offline] Hot Rolled Join DateApr 2006LocationCedar City, UtahPosts910Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinistcrashtestdummy/ .com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)702Likes (Received)208 [image: Post] The wheel has the following on it: USDW MD320 N50 BB 22 1/8 34JD-74. I have some dressing stones from another machine that I will try on the stone. I don't think the wax build up is a problem, but I might try some solvent on it if the dressing doesn't work. [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666215&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666215 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666215 .com/vb/report.php?p=666215 > 20. 21. 22. 02-25-2007, 05:41 PM #10 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > *pepo* <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666216/#post666216 .com/vb/members/pepo/ > [image: pepo is offline] Hot Rolled Join DateMay 2005Locationphoenix,az usaPosts505Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)0Likes (Received)6 [image: Post] "Fixing" a diamond wheel is a 2 step process. Dressing and conditioning. Dressing is getting the wheel to run true and round. Conditioning is getting the resin bond back far enough to let some diamond particles stick out far enough to do some grinding. On a surface grinder a brake dresser is quick and easy,the moly blocks joeby mentioned in his post work too. I use a lot of diamond and CBN wheels on Heald ID grinders to grind plasma spray on overhauled gas turbine parts. They range from 1/2" to 3" dia and when they get worn on the "front" blind bores get small in the bottom. Flipping them over sometimes works but usually I grind them straight. Mount the wheel in a good whirlygig on a surface grinder or between centers on a arbor in an OD grinder and with a 60 grit green wheel grind it straight. For blind bores I usually put some taper in them(.001 an inch),wet is best but dry will work. Carefully wrap one layer of masking tape tightly around the outside of the wheel and indicate it in w/n .0005. The tape will save your indicator points. Condition with a soft alum oxide stick or a peice of white wheel,just hold it against the wheel for a second or two while it is running. The less you "condition" the better the finish but the wheel is much less aggressive. [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666216&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666216 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666216 .com/vb/report.php?p=666216 > 23. 24. 02-25-2007, 06:15 PM #11 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > [image: crashtestdummy's Avatar] <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666217/#post666217 .com/vb/members/ > *crashtestdummy* <http://www.practicalmachinistcrashtestdummy/ .com/vb/members/ > [image: crashtestdummy is offline] Hot Rolled Join DateApr 2006LocationCedar City, UtahPosts910Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinistcrashtestdummy/ .com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)702Likes (Received)208 [image: Post] Well it looks like we are successfully grinding parts. Part of the problem turned out to be a sticky feed wheel. Made the feed jerky and destroyed the stacks of parts. Thanks for the help. [image: Quick reply to this message] Reply <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Reply With Quote] Reply With Quote <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666217&noquote=1 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > [image: Multi-Quote This Message] <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666217 .com/vb/newreply.php?do= > Like this post <http://www.practicalmachinistnewreply&p=666217 .com/vb/report.php?p=666217 > 25. 26. 02-26-2007, 01:51 AM #12 <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > *SlicerMan* <http://www.practicalmachinistsurface-grinding-wheel-139034- post666218/#post666218 .com/vb/members/slicerman/ > [image: SlicerMan is offline] Hot Rolled Join DateJan 2007LocationNew Hampshire USAPosts701Post Thanks / Like <http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/diamond- > Likes (Given)3Likes (Received)25 [image: Post] If it is running reasonably round you will be ok just forcing an abrasive stick or old grinding wheel into it free hand. You are flood cooling I assume ? Look at it with a magnifying glass. The diamons should have a little tail of bond behind them. Good luck. SMsurface-grinding-wheel-139034/ #top
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