Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>]

I like your ideas very much Dan but I see a few problems in trying to 
realise them.

The herd are not just consumers, they are also television watchers and I 
don't think they ever show on television how many people here in West Cork 
or in most parts of the world live. The interiors of all the houses in 
glossy magazines don't look a bit to what I am used to and people here on 
these muddy farms don't dress like what they are told to aspire for.
Maybe we could start with publishing something that gives a different view 
of reality?

Let us also not forget that religions are not at all forgiving for those who 
think or do their own thing. Danger here!

Maybe if we think hard we can come up with something to effect a change?

A few months ago I saw a short video by an American comic who gave a means 
to spoil the NSA's spying on all of us. He thought that we should all 
include some terrorist talk in all the phone calls and emails we send. It 
was brilliantly funny but I have seen nobody yet brave enough to go for it. 
A pity.
Another disappointment with the spies is that they must know all about elite 
pedophile rings and other depraved and highly illigal activities from big 
bankers and politicians but never a word do they release out about these 
things. (This idea from John Rappoport).
So I'll just blow up one more bridge today and then off to bed! If you don't 
hear from me again I may have been droned :)

John

> > "I wanted to physically make the world a better place," Janes said.
> > With his family's help, he bought 40 acres of forested land on Denman
> > Island. It came with two trailers.
>     The problem isn't the world, it's the herd. You don't have to
> improve the world, you have to turn the direction of the herd. The point
> of civilization is to isolate and drive the herd into a corral and teach
> them to consume purchased products. The money from those purchases
> constitutes our democratic voting process.
>     If you want Change, keep it in your pocket. You don't have to
> isolate yourself from the herd, and in fact doing so is less effective
> than staying in the herd and spreading the consciousness that
> consumerism is killing the future. Nobody is going to listen to a nut
> job on an island, but they will listen to Warren Buffet when he buys a
> used car instead of a new one and lives in a modest home when he doesn't
> have to. They will listen to a neighbor who always seems content with
> life more than one fighting for a rung on a ladder.
>     The next step is turning the herd completely around, to where the
> goal of humans is to contribute to the natural world rather than extract
> from it.
>
>     The crux of the problem is that Consumerism is THE religious basis
> for our civilization. Capitalism could still take place based on
> generosity to nature instead of extraction, but the opposite end of the
> labor/owner dichotomy would benefit.
>
> Imagine a company where the CEO's job is to serve the employees' needs
> in order to get their work done tending a world for the sake of their
> children. The highest profit would be a permaculture type of place in
> the world where individuals are free to pursue useful interests, rather
> than trying to kill each other for the last dried bean.
>
> What a concept, eh?
>
> Ideologically, it sounds impossible, but logically, we have all of the
> tools and systems in place. We just don't have the awareness or the will
> because people have been kept living in the dark for so long. Many need
> a kick in the pants, but most just need a flashlight to find their own
> keys. The desire for a private island is just another tool used to get
> people to work harder for a weekend off (or a retirement doing anything
> but what they are trained for).
>
> Dan C.
> Belgium, WI
>
>
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