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  • From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: [Livingontheland] one hell of a demographic shift
  • Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:05:43 -0600


sending this from another list, invites discussion/contradiction

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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Begin forwarded message:

> Subject: [America2Point0] Re: One Of The Biggest Reasons People Are
> Mad Enough To Protest In One Eye-Opening Clip
>
> Hi,
> Call me a pessimist but there are a couple of reasons why I believe
> when the big crash happens (systems science tells us exponential
> growth will inevitably be followed by a fast catastrophic crash) it
> will have to go all the way to the bottom, bypassing farming and
> gardening on the way down.
>
> Firstly, at the turn of the 19th Century, 70% of the population of
> Western nations were involved in agricultural production. That
> number is now less than 2%. That would be one hell of a demographic
> shift to be pulled off in ever worsening socio-economic conditions.
>
> Secondly, when famine hits, theft from farms and gardens goes
> through the roof. The Chinese had an entire industry built around
> the defence of agricultural production including armed guards and
> watch towers.
>
> Even if urbanites somehow aquired the land and the skills to grow
> food they would then have to sit up all night on the porch with the
> shotgun laying over their lap to make sure they wern't robbed in the
> night.
>
> I think agriculture will be a luxury only the survivors of the
> bottleneck [those who live through the dieoff] will have.
>
> regards,
>
> Neal





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