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[Pete Vukovich <pvukovic1@yahoo.com>]

Actually there is another way to compare the two - its a little expensive, but if you can run everything from plugs you can buy a little machine that measures kwh using an inductance coil in parallel with the load (and draws little current itself) and compare that to your electric companies notion of what you used. The trouble here is you'd have to forgo anything that isn't coming from a plug,put one on each recepticle and plug in from that - but you could get a pretty reasonable measure of the variation. In fact if your meter is human readable you could probably measure it real time should you need a quick and dirty sample.



--- On Thu, 2/11/10, mdnagel@verizon.net <mdnagel@verizon.net> wrote:

From: mdnagel@verizon.net <mdnagel@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Cell Phone Antennas and Cost of Electricity!
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 6:23 PM

The formula for charging is: cost/kWh x kWh

The article failed to account for cost variance over time.  It's not that I doubt the claims, it's just that if one were to take something like this to court and not account for this variable the case would be easily dismissed.


Saying that you're only using your electrical devices so much, or have been consistently wouldn't be sufficient: how can you prove your use levels?

The "proper" measure would have been to state usage based on kWh rather than cost.

Please note that I'm not disputing the claims that RF towers can interfere with electrical meter operation.  Just trying to instrcut people on the logical way to study a problem; and, to warn about possible tampering charges.


-Mark Nagel
Everett, WA


Feb 11, 2010 05:44:48 PM, livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

Well all I can tell you is they charged me $198 last month and my entire heat for this well insulated house was a tiny space heater and part time open oven door.  The space heater was not run on many times and never when I was gone, and also half the house was closed door/towels under door so only half a house.  Whole house is 1200 feet with eight foot ceilings, bathroom also shut off.    

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From: "mdnagel@verizon.net"
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 6:55:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Cell Phone Antennas and Cost of Electricity!



Wrap this wire around the electrical line that connects to your electrical meter at the side of your home.

That would be on the service side of the line, meaning that this is you electrical company's property.  They may interpret this to be tampering with their equipment/service.

First would be to inquire as to what kind of meter one has, whether it's one that's subject to distortions (the article suggests that not all are).  The reason why I urge caution is that overloading your local utility department with a non-issue can result in higher costs.

Here's a pretty handy reference for how cell phones work:

http://www.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone.htm/printable


-Mark Nagel
Everett, WA

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