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  • From: "Capt.D.C.G.Fox." <cdfox@optusnet.com.au>
  • To: <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [Livingontheland] Animals fit for slaughter. Vol 186, Issue 2
  • Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:59:40 +1000

Pete your on the right track but consider the following,
Nature designed herbivores firstly for recycling minerals and
microbes then for providing protein for the food chain. Their desired diet
is based on a 30/1 carbon/nitrogen ratio i.e. green leafy material, when the
c/n ratio is widened >60/1 i.e. dry straw and grain their digestive system
is unable to extract nutrient required for opium health unless synthetic
additives are forced fed as in concentration camps, to me this is animal
cruelty. I consider that animals can be holistically managed (A Savory) on
meadow pasture, which will further close the nutrient loop resulting in
modifying climate variation, but that's another story.
Regards,
Douglas.
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:35:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pete Vukovich <pvukovic1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Animals fit for slaughter ===RE:
Livingontheland Digest, Vol 185, Issue 7
To: Healthy soil and sustainable growing
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The whole story seems incomplete. There may be only 3 cases of CJD in the
U.S. but CJD may be only 1 variant of priones disease? - and not all
proteins fold in every species at the same rate. A walking cow does not
indicate its free of BSE.? Some have suggested that rise in alzheimers rates
in this country may also be connected to priones disease (cf. Mad Sheep).
Also its not as though BSE doesn't have counterparts in other animals which
aren't part of this ban , like scrapies.

Maybe they could just stop feeding stock offal or at least require offal be
cooked, that seems like it would be a more substantive start. If they wish
to ban downed cows for the variety of illness's which not being able to walk
might represent thats fine, but how does that address how the animal got
that way to begin with? Does anybody really still believe feeding
rhuminators sweet feed and grains is going to improve their health or ours?
I think if they aren't willing to tackle that, they aren't serious about the
food supply , this may just represent some other political or trade agenda.
Not to dodge the original comment, observing them (or a sample of them)
in a more sustained way would certainly tell you more about their health.
Its funny, the USDA can afford secret police to arrest small time milk
sellers,
but they can't seem to budget or train anyone to observe an animal.

I'm just not sure the underlying 'best' practices that have been developed
are really conducive to healthy animals or healthy food to begin with
- even those required by law.




--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Capt.D.C.G.Fox. <cdfox@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
From: Capt.D.C.G.Fox. <cdfox@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: [Livingontheland] Animals fit for slaughter ===RE: Livingontheland
Digest, Vol 185, Issue 7
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 4:44 PM

The government would have been wiser to have the animals walk for 10 miles 2
days before slaughter and then assessed for fitness for processing, this
could bring Animal Concentration Camps to and end.
Regards,
Douglas.

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:51:33 -0700
From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Subject: [Livingontheland] Government bans 'downer' cows from food
supply
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Government bans 'downer' cows from food supply
March 14, 2009 9:47 a.m. PT
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1151ap_mad_cow.html
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON -- The government on Saturday permanently banned the slaughter
of cows too sick or weak to stand on their own, seeking to further minimize
the chance that mad cow disease could enter the food supply.

The Agriculture Department proposed the ban last year after the biggest
beef recall in U.S. history. The recall involved a Chino, Calif.,
slaughterhouse and "downer" cows. The Obama administration finalized
the
ban on Saturday.

No illnesses have been linked to those cows in the United States. There
have been three cases of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease confirmed in
people living in the United States, but those were linked to meat products
in the United Kingdom and Saudi Arabia, according to the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention.



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