Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[<activism98201@verizon.net>]

I'll see if I can follow a couple of top acts :-)

What has been managed to be done is to denigrate real/essential life 
sustaining functions such as agriculture so that we all accept that paying 
lower wages is acceptable.

In the greater context I see this all changing due to factors relating to 
conservation of energy principles.  Those middle men, and the upper caste, 
are going to dry up as energy gets scarcer.

A balance will be found.  The reality is that the majority of the world's 
population lives on $3 or less per day.  What side of the teeter-totter are 
you on?


-Mark Nagel
Everett, WA


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From: TradingPostPaul <tradingpost@riseup.net>
Date: 2008/03/29 Sat PM 09:47:23 CDT
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Failyuh to comyoon'kate


I don't want to get too far away from our list description. But
relocalization is getting a lot of buzz now. It's one way to avoid that
corporate middleman, keep profits recirculating in the local community,
gain more independence from outside threats to food supplies, and be less
vulnerable to economic shocks dragging down the rest of the country - or
international trade. 

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 3/29/2008 at 2:53 PM Dan Conine wrote:

>When we use money to determine the value, then there isn't much 
>difference between the prison slaves and the immigrant slaves. When the 
>payment to labor is so low that local people don't want to do the work, 
>something is wrong with the system of food production that isn't going 
>to be fixed by dumping cheap labor into it.
>Cheap oil, cheap labor; same difference.
>The Business of America is Business, and that means 'buy low, sell 
>high', and in Wendell Berry's words, "buy too cheap and charge too much".
>
>Each stage of the process adds another level of buying cheap and selling 
>high. That's the essence of re-localization: getting rid of the 
>unnecessary middle-man 'gotchas' that the producers and consumers can't 
>do very much about. Doing business at the end of a handshake or a 
>pitchfork is simply a better way to remain equitable and reasonable. 
>Reactionary thinking ends up creating a government program(immigration 
>law changes) to maintain the middle profit ground for the Picklevendors 
>who pit producer against producer and consumer against consumer while 
>bribing government and advertising to support their crooked system.
>
>They've already created the Drug War to confiscate property, the Terror 
>War to confiscate oil prices (not so successfully), and now they are 
>fighting Immigration War by telling us that "Americans don't want to do 
>those hard jobs". Americans will work as hard as anyone. They just don't 
>do it if its for lower wages than they can get paid to stay clean in an 
>airconditioned office someplace. The consumer society is based on 
>everyone being a Lord in a castle, but in order to maintain that class 
>distinction, someone still has to be the peasant class and dig the 
>rutabagas and slit the chickens' throats to make the nuggets.
>
>Dan C.
>> Because the way the system works they only get pennies a day and that's
>> slave labor. Remember the old flick, Cool Hand Luke? The companies that
>use
>> prison labor are making a killing and lobby for more draconian laws to
>keep
>> nonviolent inmates incarcerated longer and longer for future profits. Of
>> course all that deprives families of breadwinners, and guess who gets to
>> support them? You do. 
>>
>> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>>
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>>
>> On 3/28/2008 at 9:47 PM Boxleybeagles@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> >Why can't we get non-violent offenders out of jail to work on farms
>and 
>>> >then 
>>> >send the money to their children?
>>> >
>>> >
>>>     
>>
>>
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