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  • From: "Phil Bunch" <pbunch@cox.net>
  • To: "'Healthy soil and sustainable growing'" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Mitigating Climate Change through Organic Agriculture
  • Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:08:27 -0800

How a bout greed?

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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Mitigating Climate Change through Organic
Agriculture

This might shed some light as to why this is always the outcome:

The Idols of Environmentalism (two part series)
http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articles/article/233

excerpt:

ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION proceeds apace in spite of all the warnings, the
good science, the 501(c)3 organizations with their memberships in the
millions, the poll results, and the martyrs perched high in the branches of
sequoias or shot dead in the Amazon. This is so not because of a power, a
strength out there that we must resist. It is because we are weak and
fearful. Only a weak and fearful society could invest so much desperate
energy in protecting activities that are the equivalent of suicide.

For instance, trading carbon emission credits and creating markets in
greenhouse gases as a means of controlling global warming is not a way of
saying we’re so confident in the strength of the free market system that we
can even trust it to fix the problems it creates. No, it’s a way of saying
that we are so frightened by the prospect of stepping outside of the market
system on which we depend for our national wealth, our jobs, and our sense of
normalcy that we will let the logic of that system try to correct its own
excesses even when we know we’re just kidding ourselves. This delusional
strategy is embedded in the Kyoto agreement, which is little more than a
complex scheme to create a giant international market in pollution. Even
Kyoto, of which we speak longingly—“Oh, if only we would join it!”—is
not an answer to our problem but a capitulation to it, so concerned is it to
protect what it calls “economic growth and development.” Kyoto is just a
form of whistling past the graveyard. And it is not just international
corporations who do this whistling; we all have our own little stake in the
world capitalism has made and so we all do the whistling.

The problem for even the best-intentioned environmental activism is that it
imagines that it can confront a problem external to itself. Confront the
bulldozers. Confront the chainsaws. Confront Monsanto. Fight the power. What
the environmental movement is not very good at is acknowledging that
something in the very fabric of our daily life is deeply anti-nature as well
as anti-human. It inhabits not just bad-guy CEOs at Monsanto and Weyerhaeuser
but nearly every working American, environmentalists included.


-Mark Nagel
Everett, WA


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From: TradingPostPaul <tradingpost@riseup.net>
Date: 2007/12/19 Wed PM 11:38:29 CST
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Mitigating Climate Change through Organic
Agriculture


Correction: that's Dec.5. Brits put the day before the month, 05/12/07.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 12/19/2007 at 10:02 PM TradingPostPaul wrote:

>Finally found the fatal flaw in the IPCC recommendations. So the Bali
>conference was on the wrong track anyway. Dr. Mae-Wan Ho's report was
>released Dec.12. Many more hard hitting ISIS reports at
>http://www.i-sis.org.uk/susag.php
>
>paul, webmaster@fedworkerscomp.net
>----------------------
>
>"It is therefore rather astonishing that the Intergovernmental Panel on
>Climate Change should fail to mention organic agriculture as a means of
>mitigating climate change in its latest 2007 report [4]; nor does it
>mention localising food systems and reducing long distance food transport
>[5]."
>------------------
>
>ISIS Press Release 05/12/07
>Mitigating Climate Change through Organic Agriculture
>http://www.i-sis.org.uk/mitigatingClimateChange.php
>
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