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  • From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The world's ever-increasing grocery bill
  • Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:16:19 -0700


Another thought. Yes, we're demanding more than our industrial agribusiness
can supply.

But our theme of growing more in less space, locally and sustainably, isn't
just about backyard gardens. It's the answer to feeding the whole
population while reversing cropland damage, pollution, many health problems
and topsoil loss, and reducing wasteful fossil fuel agribusiness as well as
conserving groundwater and fossil aquifers.

The methods to do this are practical, economical, and widely demonstrated
and documented. We have so many people to learn from, some even on this
list with long experience doing and teaching. I know it works because I'm
doing it, and so do others on this list I've learned from. We don't need to
win votes or get foundation funding. There is no magic techno-fix or
political solution. All that remains is to do it, one garden, one farm
family at a time. The only progress is coming from individuals and mostly
local organizations in many countries, this one included.

Any progress can only be made in this direction.

paul tradingpost@lobo.net


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On 12/4/2007 at 9:05 AM Tradingpost wrote:

>SoCal, Vegas, and Phoenix seem to be in the same boat, er, desert. The
>Colorado river is being fought over and they aren't making any more water.
>I see some states are loosening their rainwater collection rules.
Greywater
>for gardens is promising.
>
>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
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>
>On 12/4/2007 at 4:54 AM Phil Bunch wrote:
>
>>This is very interesting. It reminds me a lot of the arguments that were
>>being made by the Zero Population Growth and Limits to Growth folks a few
>>years back. This looks a lot like the early stages of the demand
>over-shoot
>>problem. Too much population demanding more than the productive systems
>can
>>supply.
>>
>>It looks to me like some areas such as Southern California are hosed.
Even
>>if people wanted to grow their own food and had room to do so the cost of
>>water will become prohibitive as the climate warms and dries on a
regional
>>scale. There is not enough carrying capacity. This is not good.
>>
>>People are not good at identifying slow change even when it affects them
>in
>>important ways. Sustainability requires foresight but when the required
>>signals are muted by the convenience of day-to-day life the message does
>>not
>>arrive in time. What happens when folks wake up and realize that they are
>>in
>>trouble? Anyone living on the land had better be prepared for a lot of
>>refuges.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: livingontheland-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>>[mailto:livingontheland-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
>>TradingPostPaul
>>Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:08 PM
>>To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
>>Subject: [Livingontheland] The world's ever-increasing grocery bill
>>
>>
>>http://www.moneyweek.com/file/38738/the-worlds-ever-increasing-
>>grocery-bill.html
>>The world's ever-increasing grocery bill
>>
>
>
>
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