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  • From: "TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>
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  • Subject: [Livingontheland] Wendell Berry: Food and consequence
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:02:36 -0600


Wendell Berry: Food and consequence
Published: July 11, 2007
http://www.startribune.com/commentary/story/1295268.html

Wendell Berry is a celebrated author, an advocate of sustainable
agriculture and himself a small farmer in Kentucky. He was in the Twin
Cities recently to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Land Stewardship
Project, a Minnesota nonprofit that supports small farmers and
environmental stewardship. He spoke with editorial writer Dave Hage.

Q A few years ago, in an essay about globalization and the economics of
food, you coined the phrases "total economy" and "local economy." Can you
explain what you meant?

A Yes. The total economy is an economy in which people do nothing for
themselves. It's an economy in which they pay for everything; they are
total consumers. A local economy is one that exists by virtue of people's
willingness to take back a certain amount of economic initiative and do
things for themselves. It's a way to recapture economic choice. It's
self-determination.

Q Do you see our society today in a struggle between those two?

A It's not a struggle yet, but there is a movement toward the local
economy. And it's coming about as a response to people's understanding of
the costs to the world of an economy based entirely on long-distance
transportation. They say that the average distance that food travels from
the field to the dinner plate is 1,500 miles. And this has a cost in fuel
depletion and pollution. It's a part of the permanent drawdown of necessary
resources that are the basis of an industrial economy.

Q There's a good deal of talk today about community-based agriculture and
buying local. Is this significant?

A Well, it's the most reasonable thing going on in agriculture. To shorten
the distance as far as possible from the farm to the dinner plate just
makes sense. But it also begins to elevate food in human culture back up to
where it ought to be. We've allowed it to decline from a kind of sacrament
and a kind of center of conviviality, through commodification, to a kind of
stuffing.

Q But some people would say, gee, I like having fresh tomatoes in January,
even if they come from Mexico. Does this mean Minnesotans would get fresh
tomatoes only in July?

A Yes, but it also means you like them better. (Laughs) Of course people
like to have things out of season. It's part of the general culture of
self-indulgence. If you want a raspberry, why shouldn't you have a
raspberry? But the present economy doesn't give people any idea of the true
cost involved. So, yes, you want the raspberry. The question is do you want
to pay the cost -- in pollution, in the drawdown of resources, in the
damage to the environment?

Q You've been writing for a long time about sustainable agriculture. Do you
think the concept is gaining ground?

A Yes, no question. The concept is gaining ground. But it's still a losing
side. I mean, who's for it? Where are your champion politicians who are
willing to talk about sustainability? I saw Al Gore's movie -- there's
nothing in that movie about sustainability. The assumption is that we can
keep on living the way we're living in an economy that is necessarily
destructive and wasteful, yet somehow make adjustments to keep the glaciers
intact. I think we've got to face the possibility that the industrial
economy is essentially destructive.

Q Would that mean going back to the kind of life that our grandparents led
-- where you can your own vegetables and don't fly on airplanes?

A Canning vegetables is not a bad idea, and it's not a difficult science.
So, yes, that's a possibility. But we're not going back to anything. That's
not a possibility. Our grandparents lived the way they did because they
knew how, and they were by and large far more skillful than we are and had
better use of their own minds than we do. But we can't be them.

Q Absent leadership from the public sphere, what can an individual do to
bring about a sustainable economy?

A Well, it's fairly limited. There's none of us without sin on this -- my
wife and I own two vehicles. We live in the country; we have different
duties in different directions. That's just the way it is. It would make
sense in a lot of ways if we didn't have any vehicles, but the fact of the
matter is that my great-grandfather had better public transportation than I
do -- true!

But individuals can learn something about their food economy. And the first
thing they learn is how extraordinarily difficult it is to learn anything
about it. If you wanted to find out where your December head of lettuce
came from and what it cost, to the people and the land it came from, you'd
have a hard time. So the next thing they ask, if they can't find out much
about the mainstream food economy, is where can I find food that I can
learn about? And that's your local food economy: Where can I find a farmer
who could sell me a quarter of beef? Where can I find a farmer's market?
How can I join a local community-supported agriculture enterprise? Or where
are the restaurants that buy from local farmers? Those questions, nearly
everywhere in the United States, now have answers.






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