Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["TradingPostPaul" <tradingpost@riseup.net>]

Perhaps the irony was lost. The question is, what does a vote among five
people who spoke up prove? What of others who've tried it and said nothing?
We have hundreds on this list. Does it tell us anything at all about the
benefits of compost tea? We know nothing about their soil condition to
begin with.  What soil tests were done to determine humus levels? Do they
even know the humus levels in their soils? Was it so poor that anything
would help more than plain water? Sorry, but taking a vote never determines
scientific fact. 

Those who want to use it, that's their business, not my concern. 

BUT if someone sells it (or tea machines) with specific claims of benefits,
then those claims should be questioned. In this country, we take truth in
advertising pretty seriously. 

Understand this:

I don't expect proof of everything everyone says and I don't intend to
furnish proof of every little point I make here.  Why not? Because the rest
of us aren't making claims so people on this list will want our product.
I'm not selling anything here and have no vested interest in any product or
brand. 

I expect hard evidence to back the extraordinary claims of ACT machine
sellers and their advocates. And I expect dealers to identify themselves as
such before they start promoting compost tea. That's only ethical. Those
whose pet illusions are challenged are free to ignore this open discussion
or go elsewhere where people aren't asked to think for themselves. 

Nobody gets booted here for disagreeing with me, but claims can be
questioned, and that's as it should be. 


paul, tradingpost@riseup.net
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The outstanding scientific discovery of the twentieth century is not
television, or radio, but rather the complexity of the land organism. Only
those who know the most about it can appreciate how little we know about
it. 
   - Aldo Leopold in  Round River, 1933
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On 6/15/2006 at 9:16 PM Ryan Albinger wrote:

>Knowing that the process of producing aerobic compost tea draws nutrients
>(among other things) out of the compost, I can absolutely, unequivocally,
>undoubtingly, scientifically state that YES, aerobic compost tea is better
>than plain water!!
>Ryan 
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: TradingPostPaul <tradingpost@riseup.net>
>
>> Are you implying that proves something? What? That watering with compost
>> tea is better than plain water? 
>>
>> paul, tradingpost@riseup.net
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>> On 6/15/2006 at 6:39 PM Ryan Albinger wrote:
>>
>> >Why would unsatisfied users not report any problems to the manufacturor
>> >and
>> >ask for their money back?  There appears more people that have success
>> with
>> >compost tea than not.  On this discussion, on this list now,  there are
>4
>> >people having success with it and 1 person stated not. 80% of the
people
>> >responded on this list discussion are pleased with the field results of
>> >compost tea!
>> >
>> >Ryan