Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/

["MBS" <info AT mindbenderstudios.com>]

The one piece missing from the conversation on how wonderful
the MAC OS is is the cost of integration. I know mac has
come along way with enabling apps like MS office, email
applications, so on but I can't help but to wonder what kind
(Whoops didn't think about that!) would spring up at the most
in-opportune moments. Not to mention purchasing all the
new software. If most are clients, contractors, suppliers are
on windows, I have a sneaky suspicion that integration would
come with a hidden cost called incompatibility surprise.

Dear Mac loyalist
Please refrain from flaming.
Steve

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   1. Re: Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops! (david cherryholmes)
   2. RE: Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops! (Jim Ray)
   3. RE: Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops! (zman)
   4. Re: Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops! (david cherryholmes)
   5. Re: Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops! (zman)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:46:09 -0500
From: david cherryholmes <david.cherryholmes AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops!
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On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 08:53:28 -0500 (EST), Tom Boucher
<trekkie AT nomorestars.com> wrote:
> > Fedora Core: fedora.redhat.com/

> > Stable, nice looking, easy to use, lots of packaged applications and
> > repos for getting apps, its Good Stuff.

> At the moment SUSE is at the top of my list.  Fedore Core 3 is a bit to
> beta-y for my taste.  Mandrake is another nice desktop oriented one.

I started as a Solaris admin, and didn't get into linux until a few
years later.  I began with Redhat, then went to SUSE, and now prefer
gentoo.   I'll not assert that it is somehow "better" than the other
distros I've tried, but I like the feel of going back to my roots and
away from obfuscatory GUI apps that are writing god knows what, god
knows where.  And on my hardware the start up times for typically
bloated apps like firefox are about half what they were in Suse 9.1
pro.


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:03:18 -0500
From: "Jim Ray" <jim AT neuse.net>
Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops!
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> times for typically bloated apps like firefox


Didn't you really mean Internet Exploder :-)




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:27:47 -0500 (EST)
From: zman <zman AT shell.neverwhere.org>
Subject: RE: [internetworkers] Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops!
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Jim Ray wrote:
>> times for typically bloated apps like firefox
> Didn't you really mean Internet Exploder :-)

Yeah and he comes from Solaris... now there's some bloat for ya... ;0

Scott H. Zekanis
zman AT kungfumonkey.com
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http://www.thehellbenders.com
1957 Buick Riviera Hardtop (2 dr., 425" Nailhead)
1959 GMC in Chevy Sheetmetal 1/2 Ton (235" Inline 6)
1990 Ducati 750 Sport


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:23:18 -0500
From: david cherryholmes <david.cherryholmes AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops!
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:27:47 -0500 (EST), zman
<zman AT shell.neverwhere.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Jim Ray wrote:
> >> times for typically bloated apps like firefox
> > Didn't you really mean Internet Exploder :-)

> Yeah and he comes from Solaris... now there's some bloat for ya... ;0

Bloated in comparison to what?  I get by making the things I need to
work work, but I'm no guru.  So learn me something.....


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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:44:26 -0500 (EST)
From: zman <zman AT shell.neverwhere.org>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Jim's Bible of Clean Computer Ops!
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, david cherryholmes wrote:
>>> Didn't you really mean Internet Exploder :-)
>> Yeah and he comes from Solaris... now there's some bloat for ya... ;0
> Bloated in comparison to what?  I get by making the things I need to
> work work, but I'm no guru.  So learn me something.....

Uhhhh... just for you Gentoo for one.... and don't even get me started on
CDE...

Scott H. Zekanis
zman AT kungfumonkey.com
http://www.rod-o-rama.com
http://www.thehellbenders.com
1957 Buick Riviera Hardtop (2 dr., 425" Nailhead)
1959 GMC in Chevy Sheetmetal 1/2 Ton (235" Inline 6)
1990 Ducati 750 Sport


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