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  • From: B <beeline AT mindspring.com>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Public Education [was Re: [internetworkers] Erection (morality and law)]
  • Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 22:37:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com> wrote:

> Don't think the government should be in the business of educating other
> people's kids? Think your taxes are wasted if you don't have kids attending
> private school? If you would like to collect Social Security in retirement,
> then think again--it is the other people's kids that will be paying into the
> system.

Other people's kids will be working for our kids, and falling in love with
them, and bossing them, and being the ones our kids depend on for incredibly
vital things. Each of our children could become a doctor, cook, lawyer,
researcher, or whatever, but the doctor needs good vaccines, the lawyer needs
medical care, the researcher needs decent food, the cook needs....

Not everyone can even afford a car -- some certainly would be unable to pay
for the standard K-12 education, but regardless, all of our children
ultimately will live together in the same world, and raise our grandchildren
together. And care for us in our old age.

Public education standards help build a commonality that is absolutely
necessary to maintain a level of cultural cohesion within our huge, mobile
population. The quality of education matters because it affects the quality
of the application of that knowledge. Yet, arguments abound over sex ed and
Darwin vs. The Bible, much to the amazement of those of us who have faith
that our intellect is as much of a heavenly gift as our ability to love or to
perceive God.

Public education itself helps insure that these standards are widely
available and applied -- in fact, a child has to make a concerted effort to
avoid a decent rationality-based education in this society, and I think
that's a good thing.

~B


-----Original Message-----
From: David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com>
Sent: Nov 9, 2004 11:29 AM
To: InterNetWorkers <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Erection (morality and law)

On 11/8/04 7:48 PM, "Sil Greene" <quack AT ibiblio.org> wrote:

> .:So, in terms of cash outlay -- ignoring the value of the education --
> .:the difference is $15,000. Now, I may be overly sensitive to money but,
> .:for me, $15k starts to get into incentive range. In fact, I'd be willing
> .:to bet that if Donald Trump dropped $15,000 on the sidewalk, he's bend
> .:over to pick it up.
> .:
>
> Ah. Yes, you seem to be overly sensitive to money. It's apparently a
> common problem in this country. (Heck, once in a blue moon I even show
> symptoms.) Pay your fair share and get over it. You don't like it,
> start a letter-writing campaign to get the laws levying the $4k tax
> changed.

Don't think the government should be in the business of educating other
people's kids? Think your taxes are wasted if you don't have kids attending
private school? If you would like to collect Social Security in retirement,
then think again--it is the other people's kids that will be paying into the
system.

David

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