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  • From: David Minton <dminton AT mindspring.com>
  • To: InterNetWorkers <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Captured Status, Iraq
  • Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:42:39 -0400

Watch out, those convicted of crimes, and imprisoned, during the "War on
Drugs" are going to claim to be P.O.W.s.

David

On 4/19/04 3:28 PM, "Ian Meyer" <ianmeyer AT mac.com> wrote:

> Prisoner of War?!?
>
> Didn't you hear that the fighting was over months ago?
>
> So he had to be taken hostage...i mean, its not like there really is a
> war going on or anything
>
> ~ian
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2004, at 3:22 PM, Thomas Beckett wrote:
>
>> I've been thinking the same thing, Alan. "Hostage" schmostage. More
>> Bushite newspeak.
>>
>> TaB
>>
>> Alan MacHett wrote:
>>
>>> and now to stir things up...
>>> So there's this kid, some private, captured in Iraq (along with the
>>> several civilian contractors). The media keep referring to him as a
>>> hostage. I take issue with that for two reasons.
>>> First, in that the Geneva Conventions were drafted at a time when war
>>> was
>>> massive and "conventional", it leaves little consideration for
>>> "irregular"
>>> forces. Rather, it doesn't give them much legitimacy.
>>> There is no Iraqi military to speak of, so anyone with a gun shooting
>>> at
>>> Americans *must* be a thug or a terrorist. Bah! Granted, most of
>>> them
>>> probably are, but we seem to be ignoring that perhaps there are Iraqis
>>> making an attempt at a militia, to defend their country. This
>>> captured
>>> private is a prisoner of war. There's a war going on, and just
>>> because we
>>> don't see camo' uniforms and Iraqi flags doesn't mean there isn't some
>>> sort of military.
>>> Secondly, and this really is the more important point, by not
>>> acknowledging him as a POW ourselves, we give it to these Iraqis to
>>> also
>>> not call him a POW. In essence, we're allowing them to strip him of
>>> POW
>>> status. That has a great deal of bearing under the Conventions.
>>> Granted,
>>> again, I don't think it would much matter either way as far as how
>>> they
>>> treat him, but we sure as hell shouldn't be giving public authority to
>>> them to not call him a POW.
>>> just my $0.02,
>>> Alan
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