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[Dan Caugherty <caffeine1 AT nc.rr.com>]

Hi Deborah --

Whoops, I think you have the wrong Dan!

Cheers,
-- Dan Caugherty


On Monday, August 5, 2002, at 05:46 PM, Deborah Ellington wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> Thanks so much for your feedback. I appreciate your taking the time to 
> share
> your thoughts with me. I had an interview today where a figure was 
> suggested
> that is a bit lower than my expectations, but the feedback I have 
> received
> from several other people is that a reasonable amount would be about 
> $30K.
>
> Deborah
>
>
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 12:36:47 -0400
> > From: Dan Smith <anilorac AT nc.rr.com>
> > To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [internetworkers] wage review
> > Reply-To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > Deborah,
> >
> > As a recruiter, I often speak with a wide cross section of people, and
> > you are right about the outdated salary information.  Employers
> > nationally have tried tightening wages in nearly all positions.
> >
> > I don't know offhand what you should ask, but here is a suggestion on
> > how to handle such events.
> >
> > Since our local market swings according to the number of available
> > professionals in a given discipline at any time, it might be best to
> > feel out the employer's pay range.  You can be up front and direct with
> > agency representatives, but be subtle when speaking with the final
> > hiring manager.  At some point in the proecss, they ought have asked
> > about your salary requirements.
> >
> > When the topic is introduced, you might want to respond by saying you
> > are negotiable based on opportunity without a firm number in mind.  You
> > should mention the past part time wages, and follow with a commitment 
> > to
> > be flexible.  Then is a good time to ask what range the company has in
> > mind for someone in the role, and if it doesn't meet your living
> > requirements, suggest an alternate within reason relative to the
> > employer offer.
> >
> > If the offer is simply out of the ballpark, advise the employer so, and
> > politely close the discussion leaving open the possibility of a future
> > relationship.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > Deborah Ellington wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all you people,
> > >
> > > I hope this is not a terribly inappropriate question. I have just
> finished
> > > school and have some interviews coming up next week for web
> design/graphic
> > > design positions. I don't really have a sense of what this kind of
> > > position should pay, though. While in school I worked on freelance and
> > > contract assignments and I got paid anywhere from 20-35 per hour but 
> > > my
> > > intuition is that nobody is going to pay me that kind of money on a
> > > fulltime basis. Most of the wage information I can find online is
> > > outdated, based on the 1999 era of endless venture capital. I have not
> > > exactly been inundated by interview requests so I do not want to price
> > > myself out of consideration, but neither do I want to settle for less
> than
> > > a fair wage. FWIW, I have advanced skills in Dreamweaver, Flash,
> > > Photoshop, Illustrator, and I have a pretty decent portfolio (I 
> > > think).
> > >
> > > Please don't anyone tell me how much YOU make, but if you are in a
> > > position to know what a starting salary might be for an entry-level or
> > > junior design position, maybe you could share it? Replies to me 
> > > privately
> > > at deborah AT invincigirl.com rather than to the list would be fine.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Deborah
> > >
> > >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:57:57 -0400
> > To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > From: inet-dummy AT ibiblio.org
> > Subject: [internetworkers] [Jobboard Posting]
> > Reply-To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> >
> > See the full Job Posting at the website:
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/jobboard/
> >
> >     Company Name:
> >     Company Website: http://
> >
> >     Job Title: SQL Server DBA
> >     Job Description: Are you a SQL Server DBA looking to work with a
> >       Stable and Growing Company? Are you looking to work for a leader 
> > in
> >       their Industry?   Do you prefer to work in the privacy of your 
> > own
> >       office?  If you answered "yes", then we have the job for you..
> >
> >
> > This position has unlimited growth and promotion potential as well
> >       as a casual work environment.  The successful candidate must have
> 2-3
> >       years of SQL SERVER 7 or 2000 DBA experience. Experience in SQL
> >       Queries, Stored Procedures, Triggers, Production support, Backup 
> > and
> >       Recovery, Performance and Tuning, Installs and Upgrades required.
> The
> >       position requires someone with the ability to work with a team; 
> > and
> >       the ability to meet deadlines in a fast-paced
> >       environment.
> >
> > Responsibilities:
> >
> > -Enhance database design and
> >       programming for vendor site management product. This includes
> >       additional stored procedure and trigger coding as well as 
> > database
> >       redesign and implementation.
> > -Integration with JD Edwards financials
> >       for quarry data integration and billing.
> > Development of production
> >       policies and procedures for change control on database and COM+
> >       objects related to data integration efforts.
> > -Assist with design and
> >       coding of HR benefits system using .NET technologies on SQL 
> > Server
> >       2000.
> >
> > KEY WORDS: SQL, SERVER, DBA, DATABASE, ADMINISTRATOR, BACKUP,
> >       RECOVERY, TUNING, RALEIGH, DURHAM, CARY, RTP.
> >
> >
> > ~the JobBoard
> >
> >
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