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Ditto on the Bank of America thing.

I went into bank of America to deposit a check. I still go into the bank to 
do everything because as a wee lad my Dad dispensed some wisdom and said, 
"Always go into the bank to do your banking. This way they get to know you 
if you ever need that extra service."

So, I went into the bank to deposit a rather large check. I had forgotten 
my check book so I asked the teller to look up the account number for me. 
Well he apparently gave me the wrong number and the check never made it to 
my account. Weeks later I get a notice for three bounced checks. "Yikes!" 
They charged me $50, twice for each check to the tune of $300.00.

Well I didn't get upset because we discovered what happened and surly BoA 
would refund the charges for the mistake. The branch manager informed me 
that they wouldn't refund because they can't be expected to provide that 
level of service for all their customers.

Granted I was wrong to have forgotten my check book, but was it, is it 
unreasonable to expect this level of service form your friggin bank? So 
much for the wisdom of yesteryear.

Signed
Hello Centura

PS, I wrote letters to corporate and got he standard form letter back. 
Still $300 poorer. Any suggestions? Sorry for the long story. Steve S.




At 12:01 AM 9/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
> INTERNETWORKERS Digest for Friday, September 29, 2000.
>
> 1. Re: event idea
> 2. Re: event idea
> 3. Re: event idea
> 4. Geeks and Squeaking Shoes
> 5. Put your eJohn Hancock here(digital and e-s-signatures and the  future)
> 6. Re: Geeks and Squeaking Shoes
> 7. FFANY Shoes on Sale: Fight breast cancer and get shoes at 50%
> 8. banking recommendations (off topic)
> 9. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 10. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 11. Re: event idea
> 12. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 13. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 14. Re: event idea
> 15. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 16. Re: event idea
> 17. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 18. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 19. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 20. Re: event idea
> 21. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 22. Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> 23. I'm sure nobody here has been through this...
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>
> Subject: Re: event idea
> From: Michael S Czeiszperger <czei AT webperfcenter.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:35:28 -0400
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> > - Are mixed marriages (Windows/Linux, Apple/Intel) socially acceptable?
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> As some of you may know, I met my wife at a Java User's Group meeting, all 
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>
> Subject: Re: event idea
> From: "Austin, Roger" <rda AT rti.org>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:42:07 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
>  Geek love is something wonderful. Nileen and I have geek tendencies
> with degrees in chemistry, math, statistics, etc between us. Both of us
> started as FORTRAN programmers in the 70's and 80's and moved on to more
> esoteric technical stuff in operations research and low level
> programming. For example, we told funny stories about JCL programming at
> dinner the other day.
>  If anything, I would say that geek love is better than non-geek love.
> Imagine telling a non-geek woman that you have to leave a date because a
> server is down. Imagine an amorous geek being told that he has to wait
> on love due to a shoe sale at the mall. Oh, the humanity of it all!
>  Roger (in RTP, who needs some bean!)
>
> "Thomas A. Beckett" wrote:
>
> > - Is Geek Love too dangerous a territory to get into?
>
> > - Are mixed marriages (Windows/Linux, Apple/Intel) socially acceptable?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: event idea
> From: "saundrakaerubel.com" <saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:57:34 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> Now hold them there horses.  You can be a geek and need to go to a shoe 
> sale, trust me.
> I am a geek, a shoe lover, an info-maniac and NOT a bobo.
>
> Remember, you can never be too rich, too thin, too informed, go to Paris 
> too many times a year, know too many technical languages or have too many 
> shoes.
>
> I can always find those shoes, on sale, online, making sure no one in my 
> SMSA has them, AND not make my geek wait.  The power of the web, keeping 
> love alive everywhere.
>
> That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
> :-)
> Saundra
>
>
> t 07:42 AM 09/29/2000 -0400, Austin, Roger wrote:
> > Imagine an amorous geek being told that he has to wait
> >on love due to a shoe sale at the mall. Oh, the humanity of it all!
> > Roger (in RTP, who needs some bean!)
> >
> >"Thomas A. Beckett" wrote:
> >
> >> - Is Geek Love too dangerous a territory to get into?
> >
> >> - Are mixed marriages (Windows/Linux, Apple/Intel) socially acceptable?
> >
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> >From The Order of the Bun
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>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Geeks and Squeaking Shoes
> From: "Austin, Roger" <rda AT rti.org>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:25:42 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 4
>
>  This brings up a completely different line of thought. Has anyone
> noticed the unfortunate trend in shoes that squeak when you walk?
>  This is a short story, but I will try to stretch it out a little. I had
> one pair of shoes most of my adult life (which was in the single male
> geek stage). This does not include the grubby pair you need to mow the
> grass. Suddenly, another geek and I fall in love and suddenly I have
> four or five pairs of shoes. (Of course, I only wear the one pair that
> are comfortable.)
>  The comfy pair make a squeak that can not have been an aberration. The
> sound has to be deliberate by the shoe manufacturer. For years, I had
> shoes so quite that I could pad around the office without a sound (when
> I didn't have them off.) The squeak now means that people say "Hi
> Roger!" when I walk down the hallway even before I get to the entrance
> to their office. This disturbs me since I try to be incognito.
>  Is it true that a manufacturer would want their shoes to squeak? If so,
> is this something that came from a poll of customers or a focus group?
> These are walking shoes, so I guess there could be some federal
> regulation about walker safety or something. I'll search the federal
> register site to see.
>  My special geek ("MissHunt" of www.misshunt.com) also loves shoes like
> Saundra. She has shoes that she liked so she bought a number of pairs.
> She swears that the manufacturers always quit making the shoes that she
> likes so she has to buy a few pairs to make sure she has those she
> likes. She is telling this to a man who goes by Kmart (every decade or
> so) and tries on shoes that are wired together!
>  Perhaps she is doing this because they don't squeak. Does anyone else
> on the list have an opinion on this?
>  Roger (squeaking in RTP,
>          rewriting my software development SOP,
>           and becoming incoherent.)
>
> "saundrakaerubel.com" wrote:
> >
> > Now hold them there horses.  You can be a geek and need to go to a shoe 
> sale, trust me.
> > I am a geek, a shoe lover, an info-maniac and NOT a bobo.
> >
> > Remember, you can never be too rich, too thin, too informed, go to 
> Paris too many times a year, know too many technical languages or have 
> too many shoes.
> >
> > I can always find those shoes, on sale, online, making sure no one in 
> my SMSA has them, AND not make my geek wait.  The power of the web, 
> keeping love alive everywhere.
> >
> > That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
> > :-)
> > Saundra
> >
> > t 07:42 AM 09/29/2000 -0400, Austin, Roger wrote:
> > > Imagine an amorous geek being told that he has to wait
> > >on love due to a shoe sale at the mall. Oh, the humanity of it all!
> > > Roger (in RTP, who needs some bean!)
> > >
> > >"Thomas A. Beckett" wrote:
> > >
> > >> - Is Geek Love too dangerous a territory to get into?
> > >
> > >> - Are mixed marriages (Windows/Linux, Apple/Intel) socially acceptable?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Put your eJohn Hancock here(digital and e-s-signatures and 
> the  future)
> From: "saundrakaerubel.com" <saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:45:03 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 5
>
> Interesting articles on digital and e-signatures
>
> SPECIAL REPORT
>
> -->E-signatures: Signed, sealed, delivered
> The first national digital signature law goes into effect Sunday.
> Will your life change? And for the better?
> http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?56521:12965506
>
> Related stories:
>
> -->Security: Lingering questions on e-signatures
> http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?56522:12965506
>
> -->Implementation: We'll e-sign for everything -- eventually
> http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?56523:12965506
>
> -->Business: Which companies stand to make money from e-signatures?
> http://cgi.zdnet.com/slink?56524:12965506
> ________________________________________________________
> Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> >From The Order of the Bun
> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Geeks and Squeaking Shoes
> From: B <beeline AT mindspring.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:00:18 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 6
>
> Shoes?
>
> I have four pairs of the exact same kind of shoes (black Reebok
> walkers). Two pairs are ancient, used only for the most gross chores and
> as the front line on my shoe shelf for the occasional chewing session
> initiated by my dog. One pair is for daily wear, and the other pair is
> for dress up. (I'm not kidding.)
>
> I've been wearing this type of Reeboks for about ten years, and I
> purchase multiple pairs whenever I shop for and find them. I do have two
> pairs of (ancient) dress shoes that I wear when I'm going somewhere
> where it really matters -- job interviews, funerals, weddings -- but
> even though both pairs are flats with arch support and touted by the
> manufacturer to be the most comfortable dress shoes in existence, my
> feet begin cramping after about five minutes! (I also have a pair of
> paddock/riding boots for that specific purpose. They're warm and
> watertight, with the essential steel strip that supports your entire
> foot in the stirrup, and arch support, and sturdy toes....)
>
> Ask my husband and he'll tell you that I'm a Capricorn and Capricorns
> are known for wearing sensible shoes. (I must say that I don't set much
> stock by such touchy-feely things as astrology. My husband says that's a
> Capricorn trait. It's a bit aggravating.) Ask me, and I'll tell you that
> the state of my feet determines the comfort of the rest of my body and
> I'll take comfort over fashion almost any day, since discomfort is truly
> distracting.
>
> None of them squeak, though, not even the dress shoes. Perhaps you could
> write the manufacturer and complain (politely) and get a free pair!
>
> "Austin, Roger" wrote:
> >
> >  This brings up a completely different line of thought. Has anyone
> > noticed the unfortunate trend in shoes that squeak when you walk?
> >  This is a short story, but I will try to stretch it out a little. I had
> > one pair of shoes most of my adult life (which was in the single male
> > geek stage). This does not include the grubby pair you need to mow the
> > grass. Suddenly, another geek and I fall in love and suddenly I have
> > four or five pairs of shoes. (Of course, I only wear the one pair that
> > are comfortable.)
> >  The comfy pair make a squeak that can not have been an aberration. The
> > sound has to be deliberate by the shoe manufacturer. For years, I had
> > shoes so quite that I could pad around the office without a sound (when
> > I didn't have them off.) The squeak now means that people say "Hi
> > Roger!" when I walk down the hallway even before I get to the entrance
> > to their office. This disturbs me since I try to be incognito.
> >  Is it true that a manufacturer would want their shoes to squeak? If so,
> > is this something that came from a poll of customers or a focus group?
> > These are walking shoes, so I guess there could be some federal
> > regulation about walker safety or something. I'll search the federal
> > register site to see.
> >  My special geek ("MissHunt" of www.misshunt.com) also loves shoes like
> > Saundra. She has shoes that she liked so she bought a number of pairs.
> > She swears that the manufacturers always quit making the shoes that she
> > likes so she has to buy a few pairs to make sure she has those she
> > likes. She is telling this to a man who goes by Kmart (every decade or
> > so) and tries on shoes that are wired together!
> >  Perhaps she is doing this because they don't squeak. Does anyone else
> > on the list have an opinion on this?
> >  Roger (squeaking in RTP,
> >          rewriting my software development SOP,
> >           and becoming incoherent.)
> >
> > "saundrakaerubel.com" wrote:
> > >
> > > Now hold them there horses.  You can be a geek and need to go to a 
> shoe sale, trust me.
> > > I am a geek, a shoe lover, an info-maniac and NOT a bobo.
> > >
> > > Remember, you can never be too rich, too thin, too informed, go to 
> Paris too many times a year, know too many technical languages or have 
> too many shoes.
> > >
> > > I can always find those shoes, on sale, online, making sure no one in 
> my SMSA has them, AND not make my geek wait.  The power of the web, 
> keeping love alive everywhere.
> > >
> > > That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
> > > :-)
> > > Saundra
> > >
> > > t 07:42 AM 09/29/2000 -0400, Austin, Roger wrote:
> > > > Imagine an amorous geek being told that he has to wait
> > > >on love due to a shoe sale at the mall. Oh, the humanity of it all!
> > > > Roger (in RTP, who needs some bean!)
> > > >
> > > >"Thomas A. Beckett" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> - Is Geek Love too dangerous a territory to get into?
> > > >
> > > >> - Are mixed marriages (Windows/Linux, Apple/Intel) socially 
> acceptable?
> >
> > ---
> > Come and play at the InterNetWorkers Web 
> site!  http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
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> =====================================
>     I always have more questions
> Thank you in advance for your answers
> =====================================
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>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: FFANY Shoes on Sale: Fight breast cancer and get shoes at 50%
> From: "saundrakaerubel.com" <saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:16:40 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 7
>
> FFANY Shoes on Sale (If you have cable and have access to QVC, on Wed=
>  October 4, 2000 from 7-10 EST)
>
> Fight cancer and buy shoes, how can you lose?  All net proceeds will benefit=
>  breast cancer research and education.=20
> http://www.qvc.com/hotffany00.html
>
> For those of you who do not have access to that station, but do have a=
>  computer, you can buy the shoes from their website also. =20
> And
> Starting Monday, October 2, 2000, the FFANY Shoe of the Day will be featured
>   every day throughout October (except Sundays) during The QVC Morning Show
>   (7 =96 9 a.m. ET). Starting Monday October 2, 2000, you can view and=
>  purchase
>   select Shoes of the Day online. Please note: certain shoes
>   may not be available for online purchase. You can, however, purchase these
>   shoes by calling 1-800-544-5788.
>
>
> Some of the designers being represented are:
> Adrienne Vittadini ~ Aerosoles ~ American Eagle ~ Andr=E9 Assous ~
>   Ann Marino ~ Anne Klein ~ Aquatalia By Marvin K. ~ Arche ~
>   Bandolino ~ Birkenstock, B=F8rn ~ Bostonian ~ Bruno Magli ~ Calico ~
>   Caparros ~ Caressa ~ Charles Jourdan ~ Chinese Laundry ~ Clarks of
>   England ~ Cloudwalkers.com ~ Cobbie Cuddlers ~ Cole=B7Haan ~ Daniel
>   Green ~ DKNY Shoes ~ Donald J Pliner ~ Dr. Martens ~ E.S.
>   Originals-Rampage ~ Eastland ~ Easy Spirit ~ Elements by Nina ~ Enzo
>   Angiolini ~ Esprit ~ Etienne Aigner ~ Franco Sarto ~ Frye ~ G.H. Bass
>   ~ Goody Two Shoes ~ Havana Joe ~ Hush Puppies ~ Impo ~ Isaac
>   Mizrahi ~ Keds ~ Liz Claiborne Shoes ~ Madeline Stuart ~ Markon ~
>   Martinez Valero ~ Me Too ~ Mia ~ Mootsies Tootsies ~ Naked Feet ~
>   Naturalizer ~ New York Transit ~ Nicole ~ 9 & Co. ~ Nine West ~
>   Prima Royale ~ R.J. Colt ~ Rampage ~ Reaction By Kenneth Cole ~
>   Reed Evins ~ Rieker ~ Rockport ~ Ryka ~ Salvatore Ferragamo ~ Sam
>   & Libby ~ Sebago ~ Selby ~ Seychelles ~ Sperry Top-Sider ~ Sporto
>   ~ Stride Rite Kids ~ Sudini Imports ~ Timberland ~ Tommy Hilfiger ~
>   Trotters ~ Unlisted.com ~ Via Spiga ~ Westies ~ White Mt. ~ Yaleet ~
>   Zalo ~ Zodiac.=20
> ________________________________________________________
> Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> =46rom The Order of the Bun
> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: "saundrakaerubel.com" <saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:43:33 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 8
>
> Hi Everyone:
>
> As some of you know, I am the geeky shoe horse moving to RTP in mid November.
>
> Can anyone out there give me some recommendations on banks to choose or 
> avoid in that area of North Carolina?  I am currently with a credit union 
> where my car loan is in Sick Silicon Valley.  But, I figure I should have 
> someone local.  This would be for basic banking needs, not necessarily for 
> any upcoming mortgage.
>
> Just want to know who to avoid.
>
> Thanks
>
> Saundra
> ________________________________________________________
> Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> >From The Order of the Bun
> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: "Thomas A. Beckett" <thomas AT tbeckett.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:44:43 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 9
>
> Avoid Bank of America.  They charge out the ass for every little thing
> and have bad customer service.  They genuinely don't care about their
> customers.
>
> First Union, CCB (Central Carolina Bank) and Centura seem to be much
> more customer-oriented.
>
> TaB
>
> "saundrakaerubel.com" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone:
> >
> > As some of you know, I am the geeky shoe horse moving to RTP in mid 
> November.
> >
> > Can anyone out there give me some recommendations on banks to choose or 
> avoid in that area of North Carolina?  I am currently with a credit union 
> where my car loan is in Sick Silicon Valley.  But, I figure I should have 
> someone local.  This would be for basic banking needs, not necessarily 
> for any upcoming mortgage.
> >
> > Just want to know who to avoid.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Saundra
> > ________________________________________________________
> > Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> > "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> > >From The Order of the Bun
> > http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
> >
> > ---
> > Come and play at the InterNetWorkers Web 
> site!  http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> > You are currently subscribed to internetworkers as: thomas AT tbeckett.com
> > To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: "saundrakaerubel.com" <saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:51:23 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 10
>
> wait, is not Bank of America, actually Nations Bank?  is it still BoA 
> (originated in SF) or Nations Bank?  I have known the pitfalls of BoA 
> since the 70s, so it is good to know they haven't changed in 3 decades!
>
> saundra
>
> At 02:44 PM 09/29/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> >Avoid Bank of America.  They charge out the ass for every little thing
> >and have bad customer service.  They genuinely don't care about their
> >customers.
> >
> >First Union, CCB (Central Carolina Bank) and Centura seem to be much
> >more customer-oriented.
> >
> >TaB
> >
> >"saundrakaerubel.com" wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone:
> >>
> >> As some of you know, I am the geeky shoe horse moving to RTP in mid 
> November.
> >>
> >> Can anyone out there give me some recommendations on banks to choose 
> or avoid in that area of North Carolina?  I am currently with a credit 
> union where my car loan is in Sick Silicon Valley.  But, I figure I 
> should have someone local.  This would be for basic banking needs, not 
> necessarily for any upcoming mortgage.
> >>
> >> Just want to know who to avoid.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Saundra
> >> ________________________________________________________
> >> Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> >> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> >> >From The Order of the Bun
> >> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Come and play at the InterNetWorkers Web 
> site!  http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
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> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
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> ________________________________________________________
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> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> >From The Order of the Bun
> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: event idea
> From: Paula Paul <Paula AT PaulSoftware.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:29:25 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 11
>
>
> >
> >Geek love is something wonderful.
> >
>
> Absolutely!
>
> As I type this with my five month old son on my lap (the product of two
> programmers)...
> It's nice to have a husband who 'gets it' when I say "I think his first
> words should be 'hello world'" ;-)
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Paula Paul          Paula AT PaulSoftware.com
> Paul Software, Inc. http://www.PaulSoftware.com
> tel 919.460.4539    fax 650.373.3025
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: "Laura Newberg" <laura AT cnewsgroup.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:22:24 -0200
> X-Message-Number: 12
>
> I'll second on Centura I've been impressed.
>
> > >First Union, CCB (Central Carolina Bank) and Centura seem to be much
> > >more customer-oriented.
>
> Laura Newberg
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: MaryBeth Lackey <MLackey AT raleighcvb.org>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:59:17 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 13
>
> They're one and the same. I think Nationsbank bought BofA, but then changed
> their name to BofA.
>
> I work in downtown Raleigh, and there's a branch in our building on the
> ground floor. I went in there one day because I needed something notarized,
> only to be asked, "Are you a Bank of America account-holder?" I said no, and
> she told me with a smile on her face that those services were for customers
> only.
>
> My answer was, "Well, I guess I'll never be a customer here, then."
>
> With policies like that, I can't imagine why anyone would bank with them.
>
> There are a lot of choices -- First Union, CCB, BB&T, Wachovia, Centura, not
> to mention a few credit unions and some smaller banks, like NBC (found in
> Kroger grocery stores), M&F (Mechanics and Farmers), and Southtrust.
> ---
> Mary Beth Lackey
> Internet Manager
> Greater Raleigh Convention and Visitors Bureau
> http://www.raleighcvb.org
>
> > ----------
> > From:         saundrakaerubel.com
> > Reply To:     InterNetWorkers
> > Sent:         Friday, September 29, 2000 2:51 PM
> > To:   InterNetWorkers
> > Subject:      [internetworkers] Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> >
> > wait, is not Bank of America, actually Nations Bank?  is it still BoA
> > (originated in SF) or Nations Bank?  I have known the pitfalls of BoA
> > since the 70s, so it is good to know they haven't changed in 3 decades!
> >
> > saundra
> >
> > At 02:44 PM 09/29/2000 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Avoid Bank of America.  They charge out the ass for every little thing
> > >and have bad customer service.  They genuinely don't care about their
> > >customers.
> > >
> > >First Union, CCB (Central Carolina Bank) and Centura seem to be much
> > >more customer-oriented.
> > >
> > >TaB
> > >
> > >"saundrakaerubel.com" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Everyone:
> > >>
> > >> As some of you know, I am the geeky shoe horse moving to RTP in mid
> > November.
> > >>
> > >> Can anyone out there give me some recommendations on banks to choose or
> > avoid in that area of North Carolina?  I am currently with a credit union
> > where my car loan is in Sick Silicon Valley.  But, I figure I should have
> > someone local.  This would be for basic banking needs, not necessarily for
> > any upcoming mortgage.
> > >>
> > >> Just want to know who to avoid.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Saundra
> > >> ________________________________________________________
> > >> Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> > >> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> > >> >From The Order of the Bun
> > >> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
> > >>
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> > ________________________________________________________
> > Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> > "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> > From The Order of the Bun
> > http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
> >
> >
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: event idea
> From: "Thomas A. Beckett" <thomas AT tbeckett.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:04:49 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 14
>
> So should we count that as a vote in favor of an InterNetWorkers singles
> mixer (even if you won't attend for obvious reasons)?
>
> TaB
>
> Paula Paul wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Geek love is something wonderful.
> > >
> >
> > Absolutely!
> >
> > As I type this with my five month old son on my lap (the product of two
> > programmers)...
> > It's nice to have a husband who 'gets it' when I say "I think his first
> > words should be 'hello world'" ;-)
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Paula Paul          Paula AT PaulSoftware.com
> > Paul Software, Inc. http://www.PaulSoftware.com
> > tel 919.460.4539    fax 650.373.3025
> >
> > ---
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>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: Steven Champeon <schampeo AT hesketh.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:15:15 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 15
>
> on Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 02:22:24PM -0200, Laura Newberg wrote:
> > I'll second on Centura I've been impressed.
> >
> > > >First Union, CCB (Central Carolina Bank) and Centura seem to be much
> > > >more customer-oriented.
>
> First Union sucked when I dropped them in favor of First Citizens, back
> in 1994, not sure if they ever got better. If you're looking for a nice
> locally oriented bank, I'd recommend First Citizens. They've been very
> good to me and mine.
>
>  http://www.firstcitizens.com
>
> They also have online banking, which I've found very useful (and I
> actually use it, not like the Security First account I got back in '95)...
>
> Steve
>
> --
> tired of being an underappreciated functionary in a soulless machine?
> hesketh.com is hiring: http://www.hesketh.com/careers/
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: event idea
> From: "saundrakaerubel.com" <saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:21:39 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 16
>
> My daughter, www.zolahayes.com, a product of one geek and one shoe loving 
> geek, knows that she has two names:
> zoal cheyenne hayes and zola hayes dot com, and she can say both.
> Now, given my ex husband to be is the geek and I the shoe lover, which one 
> of us gets to come to the event?  As many of you know by meeting both of 
> us at David's that Saturday evening, as divorcing spouses, we do get a long.
>
> The dilemmas of divorcing geeks.
>
> Saundra

> At 03:04 PM 09/29/2000 -0400, Thomas A. Beckett wrote:
> >So should we count that as a vote in favor of an InterNetWorkers singles
> >mixer (even if you won't attend for obvious reasons)?
> >
> >TaB
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> >From The Order of the Bun
> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: Michael S Czeiszperger <czei AT webperfcenter.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:25:45 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 17
>
> "saundrakaerubel.com" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Can anyone out there give me some recommendations on banks to choose or 
> avoid in that area of North Carolina?  I am currently with a credit union 
> where my car loan is in Sick Silicon Valley.  But, I figure I should have 
> someone local.  This would be for basic banking needs, not necessarily 
> for any upcoming mortgage.
> >
>
> Has anyone had any trouble getting a bank account? When I moved here, 
> Wachovia refused to give me a bank account saying they "didn't give 
> accounts to transients", even though I had just bought a house. I just 
> tried to get an account at First Union, so I could take advantage of 
> accessing my account from Quicken, and
> they refused to give me a simple checking account, and of course also 
> refused to say why.
>
> It looks like I'm going to have to go out and grab some credit reports and 
> find out if the one person in the US with the same name as I have (yes 
> there are more than one Michael Stephen Czeiszpergers) has been passing 
> bad checks.
>
> MIchael Czeiszperger
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: "saundrakaerubel.com" <saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:33:31 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 18
>
> a credit report online in seconds, http://www.qspace.com/qspace/
>
>
> At 03:25 PM 09/29/2000 -0400, Michael S Czeiszperger wrote:
> It looks like I'm going to have to go out and grab some credit reports and 
> find out if the one person in the US with the same name as I have (yes 
> there are more than one Michael Stephen Czeiszpergers) has been passing 
> bad checks.
>
> MIchael Czeiszperger
>
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> >From The Order of the Bun
> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: "Austin, Roger" <rda AT rti.org>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:42:14 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 19
>
>  Perhaps their last name field in the account database isn't long enough
> to handle your name? I doubt they would admit it. Just a paranoid geek
> thought...
>  Roger (in RTP, been there, done that.)
>
> Michael S Czeiszperger wrote:
>
> > they refused to give me a simple checking account, and of course also 
> refused to say why.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: event idea
> From: Paula Paul <Paula AT PaulSoftware.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:31:23 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 20
>
> >
> >So should we count that as a vote in favor of an InterNetWorkers singles
> >mixer (even if you won't attend for obvious reasons)?
> >
>
> Sure!
>
> I also had the thought that the '6 minute drill' might be fun for a mixed
> singles/non-singles event - in those 6 minutes you probably have time to say
> "I'm single", or "I'm happily married", or even "I'm a Windows programmer"
> (at times, this can be a sure fire way to get a reaction from someone).
>
> Even married folks like to make new friends - and for us introverted geeks,
> 'jump starting' some conversations might not be a bad idea...
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Paula Paul          Paula AT PaulSoftware.com
> Paul Software, Inc. http://www.PaulSoftware.com
> tel 919.460.4539    fax 650.373.3025
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: Michael S Czeiszperger <czei AT webperfcenter.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:24:15 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 21
>
> "saundrakaerubel.com" wrote:
>
> > a credit report online in seconds, http://www.qspace.com/qspace/
> >
>
> Thanks for the tip!  I checked out out, and for some reason I'm listed as 
> living in Charlotte, where I've never resided. The only problem with 
> qspace is they don't report what credit agency they got the information 
> from, or how to
> fix it...
>
> Michael
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: banking recommendations (off topic)
> From: "saundrakaerubel.com" <saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:34:49 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 22
>
> Call them up and ask.  or if you pay extra and get all 3 reports, then you 
> can try and change the information.  Remember I am not a lawyer, nor do I 
> play one on TV.  I just like to help people with information
>
> At 05:24 PM 09/29/2000 -0400, Michael S Czeiszperger wrote:
> >"saundrakaerubel.com" wrote:
> >
> >> a credit report online in seconds, http://www.qspace.com/qspace/
> >>
> >
> >Thanks for the tip!  I checked out out, and for some reason I'm listed 
> as living in Charlotte, where I've never resided. The only problem with 
> qspace is they don't report what credit agency they got the information 
> from, or how to
> >fix it...
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >---
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> ________________________________________________________
> Saundra Kae Rubel   saundrakae AT saundrakaerubel.com
> "I live in another dimension, but I have a summer home in reality"
> >From The Order of the Bun
> http://www.saundrakaerubel.com , mother of www.zolahayes.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: I'm sure nobody here has been through this...
> From: Steven Champeon <schampeo AT hesketh.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:30:04 -0400
> X-Message-Number: 23
>
>
>  Graphic Designer's Judgement Clouded by Desire to Use
>   New Photoshop Plugin
>  http://www.theonion.com/onion3634/graphic_designer.html
>
> --
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>
>
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