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  • From: DSanner106 AT aol.com
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Torture investigations
  • Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:37:59 EDT

Definitely agree,
The other major benefit is that this will suck up the media coverage
so other things can get done without the spotlight being shined upon them.
The admin can now force health care through with the 50 rather than
60 vote for example and when only Fox covers it and the other networks
are questioned, they can say they thought the torture investigation was
a bigger story...... I feel sorry and fear for my family currently serving
overseas, as even the President himself notes, it will place them in
greater
danger. Why call a press conference to announce this to the world when
an internal investigation would do the trick? Because there are other
motives
at work. Typical political trick used by both parties in the past, but
particularly
unforgivable when acknowledged that it will place our men and women in
harms
way.

Drew


In a message dated 8/30/2009 2:55:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
erthnsky AT bellsouth.net writes:

I remember that a few months ago, like in May?, President Obama stated
that he did not want to look back, only forward, and that he would not
investigate the torture allegations due to the fact that it would put
troops in harm's way. I respected that decision, and it made me think
that perhaps I'd been wrong about the guy, that maybe he truly had risen
above party politics, but alas, no, it appears not.
Something tells me that he may have made the 'no more torture' speech to
the CIA and they did not want to play the game. As punishment, the CIA
will now be investigated. Maybe I look at this all wrong, but to me,
this is just a political torture technique designed not to get at the
truth, because we all know that the CIA did in fact torture people, but
to embarrass and discredit the organization as well as the former
administration. (I think the latter comes as icing on the cake, not the
primary target, but provides nice collateral damage to appease those
like Pelosi in the party.) The losers are those men and women who have
volunteered out of a sense of duty to serve their country. The winners
are those in the world who despise the United States. I think we have
weakened our country and given the enemy ammunition to use against us.
I certainly don't think that President Obama gains anything here as I am
reminded of the saying that if you wrestle with pigs....well, you know.
I certainly am not defending the CIA or the former administrations
actions or policy, I do believe there should have been an investigation
and leadership shakeups, however, I think it should have been done
quietly and out of the public eye, just like the torture itself. The
image of the United States is already stained-we don't need to add
additional dirty laundry to the pile..
The way things are shaking out, the CIA is being castrated, and power is
being given to the even more secretive National Security Council(IMO,
they have a longer history of torture) and a new division for
interrogation is under direct White House control. This HIG program is
practically a black (covert ops kind of black) program because it's
leadership is vague-no one is sure how the FBI or the NSC exactly
figures into the equation. The top of the chain, however, is the Oval
Office, yet another example of power usurped from one agency or branch
and reallocated to the executive branch. It is a method of centralizing
power in the administration, something that is very scary to me.

Bev
--
Sleep well tonight, for somewhere in the ocean's depths, MY son is
protecting your freedom on the USS Key West, currently deployed
somewhere in the Pacific and/or Indian Ocean. Go Navy!
EarthNSky Farm, NW Georgia, USA

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