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Please delete now if the subject line doesn't interest you.  I found this 
tonight on a Libertarian site, but it has a religious component and 
conspiracy angles which I don't really follow (understand).  But, it is 
'interesting'.  I don't know if the author's 'they' are just the unscrupulous 
moneychangers or if he is envisioning reptilian space aliens.  I don't know 
any of the people mentioned.  If nothibng else, some of it might be humorous; 
if part is true, it is a bit un-nerving.  Read with a big grain of 
salt................

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 Posted by fadestyle on 01/16/09 8:07 PM
 
[Newer: SICK AND TIRED OF WATCHING MY COUNTRY DIE!] [Older: Are you anti Gas? 
Do yo want to turn that evil GMC truck you have into a green earth loving 
machine?]
 


Pastor Lindsey Williams Details "Economic Calamity" Ahead
January 16, 2009


(Lindsey Williams)

(This is a summary by "Tom" of a recent interview of Williams by Gianni 
Hayes) 

Dear Friends and Family: 
 
        For some years now, I have been saying that the "money changers" and 
"banksters" in London and New York are setting us up.  They're playing a 
money game in which all of the marbles are on the table.  It seems that this 
game is now in the bottom of the Ninth inning. Tonight I listened to the 
Reverend Lindsey Williams on American Voice Radio, hosted by Ms. Gianni 
Hayes.  Some people will recognize his name, some won't. 

 I am not going to go into a lengthy bio.  You will have to do that research 
yourself, assuming you even have an interest.  I will only mention that he is 
the man who, because of his contacts in the oil industry, correctly predicted 
that the world price for oil would fall from roughly $140.00 per barrel to 
less than $50.00 per barrel.    He claims to be well connected to what he 
calls "the power elite," and I firmly believe that he is telling the truth.  
But, what he calls the power elite is just one level of corporate America.  
He interacted with the high paid servants of the oil industry.  That would be 
the executives of ARCO and other big oil companies when he served as chaplain 
for the Alaska pipeline.  He knows and admits that the "real power" is much 
further up the food chain.  Bottom line?  Personally, as far as I am 
concerned,  Reverend Williams character and credibility are unimpeachable.  I 
think it is very important to pay attention to what he
 has to say. 
 
    After two hours of interview I had four legal pages of notes.   I am 
going to relate as best I can the highlights of that interview.  Some of you 
will get duplications because some of you are on more than one of my mailing 
lists.  Please understand.  I consider this matter to be extremely important! 
 
    This will be rough, since it will be stream of consciousness, right off 
of my note pad. But it is the message that is important and not the delivery. 
 
        1.   The reason why the "elite" dropped the world price of oil down 
below $50.00 a barrel was to wage economic warfare against the Arab/ OPEC 
countries.   "They" seek to bankrupt OPEC countries., especially the Iranians 
by cutting their revenues more than 75%.  (Do you think that is why Mr. 
Chavez is so belligerent towards the USA?)  Why would they do that?   Because 
Iran and the other OPEC states are getting too strong and too wealthy.   The 
Iranians are running an oil bourse, that effectively sidesteps the oil 
markets of New York and London.  (My note. Even worse they are trading oil 
not for dollars but for other currencies such as the Euro.  This is a direct 
threat to the western banking system.) According to Williams, this will not 
be allowed to continue.  This is about control!!  "What is happening today 
has  been planned for years and there are other more nefarious motives, which 
will be outlined below. 
 
        2.    The world reserve currency is the dollar and dollar denominated 
assets such as U.S.  Treasury Debt.  The Arabs have been recycling their 
petro dollars into U.S. Treasury debt for thirty five years.   (My comment. 
The Arabs/OPEC have been financing our national debt.  This is per agreement 
with the New York Banking establishment, and the U.S. Treasury. This 
arrangement has been part of the world order since the collapse of the 
Bretton Wood Agreement in 1971. This is now coming to an end.)  Now that they 
are being bankrupted (intentionally) the OPEC/Arab  states are no longer 
willing or able to buy Treasury Debt.  Hence,  the interest on the National 
Debt (which now exceeds 15 Trillion dollars?) is not being financed by 
foreign creditors. 

 China, India and other Asian states are doing the same thing.  "They are 
running from dollar denominated assets." Therefore, the Federal Reserve is 
now buying up all the Treasury Debt issued by the U.S. Treasury to cover the 
debt maintenance on the national debt.  (My Comment:  this is called 
monetization and it is highly inflationary.) (My note:  to put this in 
perspective, the so-called bailout, which was really nothing but a heist 
without the guns, in the amount of 700 billion dollars, was actually in the 
amount of 8.5 trillion dollars.  All of this sum represents more debt 
"created" by the Federal Reserve which is then added to the National Debt. In 
addition to being  extremely inflationary, we will be paying interest 
("tribute?") on this debt to the banksters in perpetuity.)      
 
         3.    Gold and Oil generally move in tandem i.e., when oil goes up, 
so does gold.   This has not been the case since the oil market collapsed.  
Gold has shown huge relative strength to the price of oil.   Because of 
intense world wide demand and speculation the relationship between gold and 
oil will no longer continue.  Gold will now move independently of oil.
 
         4.    This year, 2009, the USA will face total financial collapse.  
The dollar will also collapse in value, and it will take years for the U.S.A. 
to recover. 
 
         5.     OPEC has been cutting production steadily but they cannot 
influence the supply of oil enough to affect the world price. 
 
         6.      Ms. Hayes tried to get pastor Lindsey to point the finger at 
a particular ethnic group.   He would not do so, but  much to his credit he 
said that the Papacy and the Jesuits had nothing to do with what was going 
on. 
 
          7.     He said we have more than enough oil in the USA for our own 
needs, but the so-called "elite" as he calls them have no intention of EVER 
developing a major oil field in the continental U.S. or Alaska.  "They" will 
not allow this country to become energy independent, and they intend to  
continue to keep us dependent on foreign oil sources.  (My note:  Dependency 
is another world for control.)   Later he mentioned the field just disclosed 
by the USGS which is located in Montana and N. Dakota. (This I believe is the 
Bakken Field.)  He said that it contains 320 billion barrels which is only 
10% of the reserves. 

 This oil is worth about 15 trillion dollars.  (My note:  in others words the 
300 BB is the easy oil.  It's the oil that will flow out of the ground under 
its own pressure. That means total reserves of this one field using secondary 
and tertiary recovery techniques are probably  near  three trillion barrels. 
To put that in perspective the Saudis have reserves of about 260 Billion 
barrels.)  One of the senators from Montana has been screaming about this to 
Congress. He has been totally ignored by both Congress and the media.  
 
          8.     Regarding Obama.  "It did not matter who won the election."  
The handlers around Obama are, for the most part, members of the Council on 
Foreign Relations.  "The elite." "The globalists."  They are essentially the 
same people who ran the Clinton administration and both Bush Administrations. 
  "There will be absolutely no change in either our domestic or foreign 
policy.  (My note:  the people who have looted this country will continue to 
loot this country.) Regarding economic policies "Obama" will be another 
Hoover."  In other words Obama will follow orders and  will take the fall for 
the economic calamity that is about to unfold.  (My note:  Obama is another 
feckless, empty suit, who was selected, trained, groomed, packaged and sold 
to a gullible, naive and lazy American public.)
 
          9.      Because of the tremendous cut in revenue to the Arab states 
(75%.) Dubai will become a "wasteland."  Already they have suspended all 
construction on major buildings in Dubai.  "There will be no change in the 
future. "
 
         10.     All of the Arab states are sliding into a depression.  Their 
budget planning is based upon $80.00 oil, so they are cutting their 
expenditures dramatically----especially infrastructure and public works.
 
         11.     In addition to no longer buying our treasury debt, the 
Arab/OPEC states are now actively selling what treasury debt they hold.  This 
is also occurring throughout Asia, especially China.  This of course amounts 
to Trillions of dollars of Treasury debt etc. (My Note:  if the Fed is now 
monitizing these debt instruments, which they must surely do since they are 
the buyer of last resort, this will also be highly inflationary.)  The 
Arabs/OPEC/Asia  are converting their dollars and dollar denominated assets 
to gold and other hard assets. 
 
          12.    The long term goal of "these people" is  to control and own 
everything.  "They intend to break us."  (My comment:  Geeeez.  I am 
confused.  Here, all along, I have been told by the media that our enemies 
are in the Middle East.)
 
          13.    Gasoline will remain  at approximately $1.50 per gallon for 
the next year to a year and half.   This is killing the State government gas 
tax revenues.   Total, state tax revenues are collapsing. Expect many states 
to go bankrupt----especially California. 
 
          14.     "They" intend to control the world price of oil  by dumping 
massive amounts of oil on the market to keep the price down.  They intend to 
use, among other sources, an oil field in Indonesia that "they" just brought 
"on line."  This field has reserves of more than 300 billion barrels.   He 
also mentioned another field in northern Russia.  
 
           15.      The ultimate objective is to "destroy the USA."   At the 
same time "they" seek to consolidate control over all assets of any 
significance.  "They" already own and control, the banks, and the media.  (My 
note:  Williams did not say, but obviously, they also control the oil 
industry.)  "They" intend to gain control of the entire auto industry.  
According to Williams "why not buy the auto industry? All they need to do is 
create the credit in a computer entry."  The takeover of the auto industry 
will happen when the time is right.  They also seek control of all the real 
estate that is worth owning.   According to pastor Williams, everyone is 
going to be paying rent by the time this thing is over.  Again he emphasized 
that "After years of collapse they intend to own everything."   
 
            16.      Russia is a major world power.  Tensions will increase 
between the west and Russia.  Look for a return of the cold war. (My note:  
he did not say it but I got the feeling that the Russians are not anxious to 
become part of the New World Order.   Of course this oil price suppression is 
really hurting the Russians. They have had to devalue the Ruble seven times.) 
 
 
             17.     "There will be no attack on Iran.  There will no war 
with Iran."  "The American people will not stand for it."  They intend to 
accomplish their goal of destroying Iran by economic means.  "They will 
accomplish their goal of destroying Iran without the need of another 911 
false flag operation."
 
             18.     "Within six to nine months we will be into full blown 
hyper inflation."  "Buy everything you need right NOW!!!!"   "Prepare your 
dinner table NOW!  It is going to be 1933 all over again."  
 
             19.     "The nations of the world, especially China, are dumping 
U.S. currency and buying gold. 
 
              20.     "The reason why it is getting so hard for people to buy 
gold is that "they" do not want people to be able to protect themselves."  
"They don't want people to have something that is REAL."  (My note:  it's 
hard to find any significant quantities of gold anywhere. Silver too!)  
 
              21.     "They fear people buying gold because it is something 
"they" can NOT control.  They feel that only they, the elite, should own 
gold.""They regard it as real money." 
 
              22.      Their greatest fear is that the people will "wake up" 
from their slumber. "In fact they are terrified."  They do not intend to 
impose martial law.  They believe this would cause an armed revolution and 
that they do not want.  Hmmmm. (I guess that is why the founders included the 
Second Amendment in the Constitution.)   "A revolution  means they could lose 
control." 
 
              23.      "The American people are terrified of Obama."  "The 
day after the election the gun shops in the USA were emptied by alarmed and 
frightened citizens."  "Wal Mart reported that the day after the election 
their sales of ammunition went up by 400%.  It was a record for ammunition 
sales in a twenty four hour period. (My note:  this continued for several 
weeks after the election.)  Evidently this behavior caused a great deal of 
alarm.
 
              24.      "They" have given up on implementing the North 
American Union and are "going all the way."  The goal is total global control 
of everything.  Global Government. Global bank. Global Currency. Etc. (My 
note:  this NWO globalism business has always included a global army, and a 
global religion.  I am sure we will be hearing  more about global religion 
from "Americas pastor,"  Rick Warren) 
 
             Pastor Williams was asked what can we do?  He made some 
suggestion which are not surprising.  They are:
 
             1.  Get your spiritual house in order. (My note:  I totally 
agree with Rev. Williams.  At the core,  this struggle is spiritual in 
nature.  It is also a war on human consciousness. And, It is about both 
controlling and breaking the human spirit.  That can only happen if we allow 
it to happen.  "They" need us to surrender our God given powers to them for 
them to accomplish their evil deeds.  Think, think, think! People must learn 
to use the magnificent brain that God gave us.   Be skeptical of everything.  

 In the coming months accept nothing at face value.  Investigate everything. 
To do that you will need to turn off the "electronic sewer" "they" call 
television.  Better yet, throw the damn thing in the dump where it 
belongs.The electronic and print media are a wasteland designed to keep you 
distracted, misled, confused and misinformed.   You will NEVER discover 
anything of value watching boobokvision.  Never!!!!  

Trust nobody until that person has EARNED your trust.  And above all, 
question everything, especially if it comes from people in a position of 
authority.  And, finally recognize that "the enemy" is within.  The enemies 
of freedom are right here. Inside the gates.)  
 
             2.  Plant a garden.
 
             3.  Get out of debt.  He said debt is the main weapon of 
subversion and control used by "these people."   (My note. I totally agree 
with that remark unless all of your debt is unsecured and you own no real 
assets. Can't squeeze blood from a stone.)  
 
             4.  Store lots of food.  "The farm economy is collapsing." 
 
             That was all he had to say, but I am sure everyone on this list 
can fill in the rest.
 
              I would only add, that disclosure is what these parasitic 
cockroaches fear the most.  So, feel free to circulate this memo. But, PLEASE 
remove my  address.  I don't want to be spammed.  I have already won so many 
lotteries I just can't collect the money fast enough.     
 
             Get ready.  Be prepared.  Protect yourself and your family.  
Protect your fellow Americans.
 
              Keep smiling!!!    It confuses "the enemy." 
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              Good luck and God bless!   Choose life!!!!    Tom