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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Hmmmm.  Well I clicked on a bunch of the links.  The first one (most 
important one) wont come up "page not found".  Are these sites legitimate or 
are they conspiracy sites?  I read a couple of the bloggers that sounded 
reasonable and rational.  Huh.  I don't understand why I have yet to see it 
on one of the larger Libertarian sites.

Well, let's say it is true.  The why in the world would a sane person won't 
these statist thugs running their health-care system?  No wonder Lynn is 
afraid to sell raw milk.  I'll bet those 'raw milk' people wish they had 
believed what their gov't had become, during the 90's when the gestapo like 
feds murdered the Weavers and the poor fools at Waco.

People laugh at my ideas and say "well, If you are a good boy, you have 
nothing to hide", "well, if you behave yourself , you have nothing to hide"; 
"well, it's okay if the gov't invades your privacy because now they are going 
to give you free stuff , like health-care and love".  People need to grow up, 
provide for themselves, and have an interesting enough life that they don't 
want everyone to know of every detail of their life. 

If true, the people who were behind this need to go to prison ...........

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--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net> wrote:

> From: Lynda <lurine AT softcom.net>
> Subject: [Homestead] SWAT TEAM FOOD RAIDS
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 11:15 PM
> Anyone heard about this?
> 
> Lynda
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> > ~SPECIAL ALERT TO EVERYONE THAT EATS ~
> > Swat Team Conducts "Food Raid" in Rural Ohio
> 
> The USDA just released their plans to put a law into action
> that will put 
> all small farmers out of business. Animals for the sale of
> meat or milk will 
> only be allowed in commercial farms. December 3, 2008
> 
> 
> If you read nothing else today please make it this article 
> http://www.rwefree.com/swat. htm
> 
> http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php/4287/Brannon-Howse/
> 
> By-John-Loeffler
> 
> SWAT TEAM CONDUCTS FOOD RAID IN RURAL OHIO
> 
> Posted: 12/04/2008
> 
> On Monday, December 1, a SWAT team with semi-automatic
> rifles entered the 
> private home of the Stowers family in LaGrange, Ohio,
> herded the family onto 
> the couches in the living room, and kept guns trained on
> parents, children, 
> infants and toddlers, from approximately 11 AM to 8 PM. The
> team was 
> aggressive and belligerent. The children were quite
> traumatized. At some 
> point, the "bad cop" SWAT team was relieved by
> another team, a "good cop" 
> team that tried to befriend the family. The Stowers family
> has run a very 
> large, well-known food cooperative called Manna Storehouse 
> http://www.mannastorehouse.com on the western side of the
> greater Cleveland 
> area for many years.
> 
> There were agents from the Department of Agriculture
> present, one of them 
> identified as Bill Lesho. The search warrant is reportedly
> supicious-looking 
> <http://steveandpaul arunyan.blogspot .com/>. Agents
> began rifling through 
> all of the family's possessions, a task that lasted
> hours and resulted in a 
> complete upheaval of every private area in the home. Many
> items were taken 
> that were not listed on the search warrant. The family was
> not permitted a 
> phone call, and they were not told what crime they were
> being charged with. 
> They were not read their rights. Over ten thousand dollars
> worth of food was 
> taken, including the family's personal stock of food
> for the coming year. 
> All of their computers, and all of their cell phones were
> taken, as well as 
> phone and contact records. The food cooperative was
> virtually shut down. 
> There was no rational explanation, nor justification, for
> this extreme 
> violation of Constitutional rights.
> 
> Presumably Manna Storehouse might eventually be charged
> with running a 
> retail establishment without a license. Why then the
> Gestapo-type 
> interrogation for a 3^rd degree misdemeanor charge? This
> incident has raised 
> the ominous specter of a restrictive new era in State
> regulation and 
> enforcement over the nation's private food supply.
> 
> This same type of abusive search and seizure was reported
> by those innocents 
> who fell victim to oppressive federal drug laws passed in
> the 1990s. The 
> present circumstance raises the obvious question: is there
> some rabid new 
> interpretation of an existing drug law that considers food
> a controlled 
> substance worthy of a nasty SWAT operation? Or worse, is
> there a previously 
> unrecognized provision(s) pertaining to food in the
> Homeland Security 
> measures? Some have suggested that it was merely an
> out-of-control, 
> hot-to-trot ODA agent, and, if so, this would be a
> best-case scenario. 
> Anything else might spell the beginning of the end for the
> freedom to eat 
> unregulated and unmonitored food http://www.westonap
> rice.org/.
> 
> One blogger 
> http://thebovine.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/oda-swats-manna-storehouse-co-op/
> 
> familiar with the Ohio situation has reported
> that:"Interestingly, I believe 
> they [Manna Storehouse] said a month or so ago, an
> undercover ODA official 
> came to their little store and claimed to have a sick
> father wanting to join 
> the co-op.
> 
> Both the owner and her daughter-in- law had a horrible
> feeling about the 
> man, and decided not to allow him into the co-op and
> notified him by 
> certified mail. He came back to the co-op demanding to be
> part of it. They 
> refused and gave him names of other businesses and health
> food stores closer 
> to his home. Not coincidentally, this man was there
> yesterday as part of the 
> raid."
> 
> The same blog 
> http://thebovine.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/oda-swats-manna-storehouse-co-op/
> 
> also noted that the Ohio Department of Agriculture has been
> chastised by the 
> courts in several previous instances for its aggression,
> including trying to 
> entrap an Amish man in a raw milk "sale," 
> http://familycow.proboards32.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=12013
> 
> which backfired when it became known that the Amish believe
> in a literal 
> interpretation of "give to him that asketh thee, and
> from him that would 
> borrow of thee turn not thou away" (Matthew 5:42)
> 
> The issue appears to be the discovery of a bit of
> non-institutional beef in 
> an Oberlin College food service freezer a year ago that was
> tracked down by 
> a county sanitation official to Manna Storehouse. Oberlin
> College's student 
> food coop is widely known for its strident ideological
> stance about eating 
> organic foods. It seems that the Oberlin student food
> cooperative had joined 
> the Manna Storehouse food cooperative in order to buy
> organic foods in bulk 
> from the national organic food distributor United
> http://www.unitedbu 
> yingclubs. com/, which services buying clubs across the
> nation. The 
> sanitation official, James Boddy, evidently contacted the
> Ohio Department of 
> Agriculture. After the first contact by state ODA
> officials, Manna 
> Storehouse reportedly wrote them a letter requesting
> assistance and 
> guidelines for complying with the law. This letter was
> never answered. 
> Rather, the ODA agent tried several times to infiltrate the
> coop, as 
> described above. When his attempts failed, the SWAT team
> showed up!
> 
> Food cooperatives and buying clubs have been an active part
> of the American 
> landscape for over a generation. In the 1970s, with the
> rise of the organic 
> food industry (a direct outgrowth of the hippie
> back-to-nature movement) 
> food coops started up all over the country. These were
> groups of people who 
> freely associated for the purpose of combining their buying
> power so that 
> they could order organic food items in bulk and case lots.
> Anyone who was 
> part of these coops in the early era will remember the
> messy breakdown of 35 
> pounds of peanut butter and 5 gallon drums of honey!
> 
> These buying clubs have persisted and flourished over the
> years due to their 
> ability to purchase high quality organic foods at reduced
> prices in bulk 
> quantities. Most cooperatives have participated greatly in
> the local 
> agrarian economies, supporting neighborhood organic farmers
> with purchases 
> of produce, eggs, chickens, etc. The groups also purchase
> food from a number 
> of different local, regional and national distributors,
> many of them 
> family-based businesses who truck the food themselves. Some
> of these food 
> cooperatives have become large enough to set up
> 
> mini-storefront operations where members can drop in and
> purchase items 
> leftover from case lot sales. Manna Storehouse had
> established itself in 
> such a manner, using a small enclosed breezeway attached to
> their home. It 
> was a folksy place with old wooden floors where coop
> members stopped by to 
> chat and snack on bags of organic corn chips.
> 
> The state of Ohio boasts the second largest Amish
> population in the country. 
> Many of the Amish live on acreages where they raise their
> own food, not 
> unlike Manna Storehouse, and sell off the
> 
> extras to neighbors and church members. There is a sense of
> foreboding that 
> this state crackdown on a longstanding, reputable food
> cooperative operation 
> could adversely impact the peaceful agrarian way of life
> not only for the 
> Amish, but homeschoolers and those families living off the
> land on rural 
> acreages. It raises the disturbing possibility that it
> could become a crime 
> to raise your own food, buy eggs from the farmer down the
> road, or butcher 
> your own chickens for family and friends - bustling
> activities that 
> routinely take place in backwater America. The freedom to
> purchase food 
> directly form the source is increasingly under attack. For
> those who have 
> food allergies and chemical intolerances, or who are on
> special medical 
> diets, this is becoming a serious health issue. Will
> Americans retain the 
> right to purchase food that is uncontaminated by
> pesticides, herbicides, 
> allergens, additives, dyes, preservatives, MSG, GMOs,
> radiation, etc.? The 
> melamine scare from China underscores the increasingly
> inferior and suspect 
> quality of modern processed institutional foods. One blog,
> commenting on the 
> bizarre and troubling Manna Storehouse situation, observed
> that:
> 
> "No one is saying exactly why. At the same time the
> FDA says it it safe to 
> eat the 40% of tainted beef found in Costco's and
> Sam's all over the nation. 
> These farm raids are very common now. Every farmer needs to
> fully eqiped 
> [sic] for the possibility of it happening to them. The
> Farmer To Consumer 
> Legal Defense Fund http://www.ftcldf. org/ was created just
> for this 
> purpose. The USDA just released their plans to put a law
> into action that 
> will put all small farmers out of business. Animals for the
> sale of meat or 
> milk will only be allowed in commercial farms, even the
> organic ones." 
> December 3, 2008 7:09 PM file://localhost/comment.g
> 
> John Loeffler
> 
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