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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Roy , I read the first paragraph of the site to which you linked.  I know no 
technical jargon, so beyond that would be above my understanding.

  In the original article, it said they could search your electronic device 
to make sure you didn't have a weapon (like opening a bag or a briefacse).  
To me, that is totally differnt than going through someone's emails. 

 I don't use any of those gadgets; this computer is as far as I go with 
technical stuff.  But if you opened a briefacse and saw a notebook, you 
wouldn't (as law enforcement) read the notebook.  Your search should be done 
when you have ascertained there is no weapon.

There are certain types of horrid criminals we would all like to see caught 
and jailed ( or executed, to my belief).  But, that shouldn't be the reason 
for every citizen losing personal privacy and liberties.

  I should, if I'm unarmed and not a danger, be able to go through a 
checkpoint without a curious law enforcement person reading my journal 
......bobford


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--- On Thu, 10/30/08, Roy Morgan <k1lky AT earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Roy Morgan <k1lky AT earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] warrantless searches okay - Texas - border -email- 
> blackberries-phone.
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Thursday, October 30, 2008, 8:20 PM
> On Oct 29, 2008, at 11:13 PM, bob ford wrote:
> > ... customs officials and police officers have been
> carrying out  
> > warrantless searches of the contents of laptops,
> mobile phones and  
> > other wireless devices.
> 
> 
> There is a lot more to this than would appear to the
> technically  
> unfamiliar among us.  The topic area is Computer Forensics.
>  Some of  
> our Guvmint agencies are really big into this.
> 
> Along the hallway where I worked till early this year were
> the folks  
> who assembled a database of known program files. This data
> helps  
> investigators ignore standard stuff on a computer during a
> search for  
> useful or interesting information.  The data about common
> files  
> included the file name, program source, and an all
> important digital  
> signature ("hash") of the file which dependably
> and uniquely  
> identifies the file.
> 
> The challenges in this situation are:
> - To be really sure that tools used in computer forensics
> really do  
> what their producers say they do, and do not do things you
> don't want  
> them to.
> - To be able to competently convince a jury that the search
> of the  
> computer storage was done in a way that did not change any
> of the data
> - To be able to sift out the changing or changed
> information on the  
> computer from the gobs and gobs  of normal program files
> that really  
> are of no interest.
> 
> Doing all this is quite a bit more involved than a customs
> agent  
> looking at your laptop mailing list.
> 
> For more info, see:  http://www.nsrl.nist.gov/
> 
> Roy
> 
> Roy Morgan
> k1lky AT earthlink.net
> 529 Cobb St.
> Groton NY, 13073
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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