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- From: "Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000 AT home.com>
- To: Kata Markon <gmark AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Exepneusen in Mark 15:37
- Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 12:16:58 -0500
Libyad817 AT aol.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know an exact etymology of EXEPNEUSEN in this verse - which is
> usually translated "Gave up the ghost", but my Greek NT gives it as
> "expired"? And, surprisingly, Strong's has left it blank, both for 15:37 and
> 15:39. [15:37 - "And Jesus having uttered a cry loud expired"; 15:39 - "
> . . . having cried out he expired . . . "]
>
> Strong's Greek #s that come closest I could find were #1852 and #1853,
> Exupnizo, to waken, awake out of sleep; and Exupnos for awake, out of sleep.
> Am I complete off-base about this?
>
> Why or how would that be equated with death on the Cross? Gave up the ghost
> has always seemed to me to be a very ambiguous image or statement, certainly
> not an unequivocal Death. And expired could just as well mean breathing out
> rather than dying. Does the 'cry' have something to do with
> breathing/expiring too, given its repetition here?
>
> Any enlightenment would be most appreciated.
>
I think you should note that using etymology, let alone Strong, to understand
how
a word was used by Mark is a very dangerous enterprise. It rarely takes into
account the idea that words change meanings over time, that etymology is NOT a
good guide to meaning of a word especially if centuries separate the usage you
are looking at from the point in time of a word's origin, and that the
meaning of
a word must to a large extent be derived from its context.
In any case, I think you would be wise to have a look at some better tools
than
you are using now. Consult, for instance, LSJ which is now online at the
Perseus
site.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/resolveform
Yours,
Jeffrey Gibson
--
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-
Exepneusen in Mark 15:37,
Libyad817, 07/03/2000
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: Exepneusen in Mark 15:37, Jeffrey B. Gibson, 07/03/2000
- Re: Exepneusen in Mark 15:37, Carl W. Conrad, 07/03/2000
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