FreeTDS Development Group

[Brian Bruns <brian.bruns AT gmail.com>]

Hi Steve,

tsql with the -H and -p switches is useful for seeing if a server is
up and answers without a freetds.conf configuration.  So if somebody
can't get connected, the first thing I try after a basic telnet to the
port is tsql.  Also tsql -C gives details on version and config time
options, maybe not as important for a .deb.

Quite honestly, I don't know how much use tsql is in debugging the
libraries themselves as the unittests do a much more thorough job.  It
is useful in narrowing down a bug to the tds layer or not.  In any
event, it's more of an end-user diagnostic program than a developer
program.

We have to walk a fine line between providing a decent tool for
debugging configuration problems and accidentally encouraging people
to use it in a production setting.

Brian

2005/8/31, Steve Langasek <vorlon AT dodds.net>:
> Hi Brian,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 05:55:50PM -0400, Brian Bruns wrote:
> > I completely understand not including tsql, I'm generally in
> > agreement.  My question is, when someone has a configuration problem
> > and comes to the list and we say "run tsql with these switches and see
> > what you get", what are their options?  Rebuilding from source kind of
> > defeats the whole point of having a binary package.  Would a
> > freetds-debugtools.deb make sense?
> 
> Well, perhaps I don't understand how tsql is being used these days
> since I haven't had time to follow the list traffic much lately.  My
> understanding, from the last time I used it, is that tsql is mainly
> useful for debugging problems with the library itself.  Is it also
> useful for debugging configuration problems, in ways that sqsh is not?
> 
> If it is only used for debugging library problems, then it seems to me
> that anyone who's coming to this list for help is going to be
> recompiling from source anyway in the process of resolving the bug, so
> having to recompile to get tsql doesn't seem like a big obstacle IMHO.
> If, OTOH, there are other reasons to want tsql around, I can certainly
> look into adding it to the Debian build.
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
> Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
> vorlon AT debian.org                                   http://www.debian.org/
> 
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