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  • From: "James K. Lowden" <jklowden AT schemamania.org>
  • To: FreeTDS Development Group <freetds AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [freetds] Mail Delivery Status Notification
  • Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:50:31 -0500

On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 09:51:53AM -0600, Postmaster wrote:
> MAIL ESSENTIALS SENDER NOTIFICATION
>
> The following message:
>
> TO: chettinger AT encompas.com
> FROM: roland.bole AT gmx.at
> DATE: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:50:17 +0100
> Subject: AW: AW: [freetds] connect problem to mssql 7.0
>
>
> has been <Quarantined> by Mail Essentials for the following reason(s):

I notified the postmaster at encompas.com when this stupid message first
appeared a few days ago. They didn't respond. Now they're in the spam
filter. Sorry for the noise.

I have a blunt and simple opinion about notices such as the above: email
systems should never emit unsolicited delivery status messages. The proper
place for any such action is at the transport level, where it can be handled
intelligently. Once a message is accepted for delivery, the recipient's
system is responsible for it. If it decides not to deliver the message to
protect the recipient (or for any other reason), that's its business.
Chatting with the sender about it is like having the waiter sit down at the
table with you. Except the waiter in such cases fails the Turing Test big
time.

Many people have no control over the mail system they use and the messages it
emits. Many corporations are new to the free software world, and their mail
admins may not be accustomed to thinking in terms of mailing lists.

If your mail administrators have seen fit to send "quarantine" and such
messages to folks who send you mail, you might want to take a moment to ask
them if they would *not* do that (because it's bad manners) *especially* for
list-originated messages. These are easily identified by any mail-handling
software by the "Precedence: list" header in the message. Please feel free
to pass along this message if you think it will help clarify the situation.

Note to Mail Essentials: Is it <necessary> in this Day And Age to formulate
ungrammatical message(s) for human consumption? REASON:I ask is, it looks
like poor form to me.

--jkl





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