Compost Teas: 24 hour, EM, IM, BD & fermented plant extracts

["Gerry Gillespie" <gerry.gillespie AT resource.nsw.gov.au>]

Gerry Gillespie
Resource NSW - Australia

I was interested in Tom Jaszewski's work with disease supression. My
comments are sort of on the subject of teas, but in addition to it as well.

I ran the ACT Canberra Government's Worm Farm Research facility from 1993 to
1997 and have fiddled, in a non-scientific way for many years with
vermicompost as a foliar spray. I have had much success in eliminating
'black spot' in roses, and in using filtered vermicompost as a foliar spray
on grapes. With the grapes I sprayed every fortnight and totally eliminated
all manner of fungal conditions. My next door neighbour used a heavy
chemical regime and still had many problems.

And while it is on the edge of chemical application (although harmless to
humans) I have also used collodial silver to knock out a bacteria, way down
the food chain, which produced a secretion which in turn fed thrips.
Eliminate the bacteria and you eliminate the secretion and the thrips go
elsewhere.

Has anyone has success with reduction or elimination of sclerotinia using
teas or sprays?

Also is there an existing design in the marketplace for a stand-alone tea
maker - either wind or solar powered?

Gerry Gillespie



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Today's Topics:

   1. How about a general location and interest/experience post from the
list? (Tom Jaszewski)
   2. Warning not to open an ad.... (Jeff Lowenfels)
   3. Re: taking samples (laura_s AT vaxxine.com)
   4. Re: Re: taking samples (laura_s AT vaxxine.com)
   5. Re: Re: taking samples (Frank Teuton)

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Message: 1
From: "Tom Jaszewski" <tomj AT lvcm.com>
To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:01:57 -0700
Subject: [Compostteas] How about a general location and interest/experience
post from the list?

Tom Jaszewski
Horticulture Director
(read aging hippy gardener)

We have two brewers. A 50gal and a 500gal. This CT adventure is a couple of
years old and started as a search for alternatives to fungicides. A
long-term solution to an "incurable" disease, Fusarium oxysporum
"canariensis". Fusarium infected or was carried by a large group of the 600
specimen sized Phoenix Canariensis on our property. The "experts" referred
to the disease as the "Aids of palms". Armed with no choices I began to hear
stories about a Dr. lecturing on soil biota. We had already observed that
judicious water management and treatments of disease stressed turf with
Trichoderma harzianum Rifai would reduce disease loads. We also noted that
reduced fertilizer usage and incorporation of organic material further
reduced losses and maintenance costs. It seemed there were solutions just
not in the chemical paradigm. It seems to me; the chemical paradigm is a
search for an external force to be a victim of. Gardeners are not by nature
victims, rather stewards. If I were to assume stewardship than it followed
that there is a natural solution. I wondered what the soils were like on
Islas Canarias would they yield the missing components?

I'm not certain how I finally made the connection to SFI. Nor precisely how
I found APC Alaskan humus. Soil tests went off and a train carload of soil
arrived. Bags of mycorhizae arrived, and my staff quizzed me daily. "What's
that stuff in the boxes" and "you're gonna inject the roots with who?" We'd
all had the year's mycorhizae sales suits, and nylons. They tried to
convince us to spend $20,000USD on some critters that would inhabit the root
systems and build healthy trees. I don't know if anyone here has to sell
budgets but to get $20,000USD without a methodology to count and measure
improvement is all but impossible. I do not run a test facility! The
accessible advice was to "do a test plot". We aren't scientists we're
maintenance gardeners and landscapers. The population of trees were at risk,
and after all it's just a job!
The first soil tests arrived and we had little that resembled a soil......

TO BE CONTINUED.....please share your successes!


"When we kill off the natural enemies of a pest we inherit their work"

Carl Huffaker





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Message: 2
From: "Jeff Lowenfels" <jeff AT gardener.com>
To: <compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:04:57 -0700
Subject: [Compostteas] Warning not to open an ad....

from a list serve on this same system.

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Subject: [GWL] Incredi-mail


WARNING!
A letter was sent to the list with a blinking ad for Incredi-Mail.  DO NOT
CLICK ON THE AD!
The @$#%#$ things will latch onto you and spread ads everywhere, as bad as
virus.  If you have Incredi-mail, please set your mail to PLAIN TEXT to
reduce the chances of having one of those HTML monster Incredi-mail ads
latching on.
-Lon


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 09:35:02 -0400
To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
From: laura_s AT vaxxine.com
Subject: [Compostteas] Re: taking samples

I'm planning to send in leaf samples and soil samples with my tea today.
Can someone point me to where the sampling/shipping instructions are ?
thanks

Laura Sabourin
Feast of Fields Inc
Demeter Certified Vineyard & Farm  http://www.ragdolls.net/vineyard.htm
Ragenesque Ragdoll Cattery http://www.ragdolls.net/ragenesq.htm
R R # 1
St Catharines, Ontario L2R 6P7



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 11:11:17 -0400
To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
From: laura_s AT vaxxine.com
Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Re: taking samples

I believe for the tea grant program there are different forms. I have the
correct form for the tea, it's the leaves and soil I was wondering about.
At 09:37 AM 01/07/2002 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 7/1/02 9:35:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>laura_s AT vaxxine.com writes:
>
>
>I'm planning to send in leaf samples and soil samples with my tea today.
>Can someone point me to where the sampling/shipping instructions are ?
thanks
>
>
>
>
>Laura see this http://www.soilfoodweb.com/phpweb/topicindex.php?tid=1
>
>Dan
Laura Sabourin
Feast of Fields Inc
Demeter Certified Vineyard & Farm  http://www.ragdolls.net/vineyard.htm
Ragenesque Ragdoll Cattery http://www.ragdolls.net/ragenesq.htm
R R # 1
St Catharines, Ontario L2R 6P7



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Message: 5
From: "Frank Teuton" <fteuton AT sympatico.ca>
To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>, <laura_s AT vaxxine.com>
Subject: Re: [Compostteas] Re: taking samples
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:07:11 -0400

http://www.soilfoodweb.com/phpweb/topicindex.php?tid=81


----- Original Message -----
From: <laura_s AT vaxxine.com>
To: <Compostteas AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 9:35 AM
Subject: [Compostteas] Re: taking samples


> I'm planning to send in leaf samples and soil samples with my tea today.
> Can someone point me to where the sampling/shipping instructions are ?
thanks
>
> Laura Sabourin
> Feast of Fields Inc
> Demeter Certified Vineyard & Farm  http://www.ragdolls.net/vineyard.htm
> Ragenesque Ragdoll Cattery http://www.ragdolls.net/ragenesq.htm
> R R # 1
> St Catharines, Ontario L2R 6P7




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