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  • From: Carl Morris <carl AT nativehq.com>
  • To: cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-uk] Welsh translation of Creative Commons licences
  • Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:38:20 +0000

Hi there

We had a discussion on CC-UK in 2010 about translating CC licences into
Welsh. It's been a while(!) but I'm now in a position to apply for funding to pay a specialist legal translator to do this work - and cover any other costs which may arise.

Here's my original email with additional sub-questions:

On 11.08.10 22:50, Carl Morris wrote:
1. Can anyone advise on translating the England&Wales licences into
Welsh? I'd like to put a team together to professionally translate them.
(I've searched the mailing list archives but no result on this topic.)

1b. How many licences are there from a translation point of view - am I right in saying ShareAlike and NonCommercial are supplements and can just be done as small portions? I'm trying to estimate the amount of work involved.

1c. What's the process? What are the unknown unknowns? Do we need legal checks and balances concerning the validity of the licences themselves? Feel free to recommend an international person with experience of a translation project.

2. I would like to do it properly and enable them to be legally binding
in their own right. I assume Creative Commons would like to verify them
somehow before endorsing them - what usually happens with translations
like this? They would be direct translations of the England&Wales licences.

2b. We would be working on version 4.0 of the licences for England&Wales.

Looking at the archives somebody raised the point that copyright is not a devolved matter but I don't believe this has bearing on the licences being legally binding. Put another way, plenty of legal cases are heard through the medium of Welsh concerning non-devolved matters.

3. While I'm asking, are there any other related things that should be
translated as well - like other texts and 'promotional' material? For
instance I'd also like to get all the human-readable summaries done so
Welsh can be featured on creativecommons.org, e.g.
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/uk/deed.en_GB

3b. Somebody replied in 2010 to say that website sections could be translated too. Again, is there an estimate of the scale of this work?

Although there is a lot of content in the Welsh language licensed under
Creative Commons licences, no version of the licences seems to exist in
the language itself (to my knowledge).

It could encourage adoption by Welsh language creators, artists and so
on. Regarding question 2 I suppose there would be some benefit in having
unapproved informal 'guide' texts in Welsh that would not be legally
binding (a la translations of GPL). But this is far from ideal.

Diolch o flaen llaw / Many thanks in advance

Carl



  • Re: [Cc-uk] Welsh translation of Creative Commons licences, Carl Morris, 03/11/2014

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