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[Jordan S Hatcher <jordan AT twitchgamer.net>]

Hi Carl


On 29 Sep 2010, at 02:58, Carl Morris wrote:

> (Re-posting my query to cc-licenses list. It was originally posted to cc-uk 
> but no reply as yet. I hope I'm going about this the right way. Thanks.)
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Welsh translation of Creative Commons licences
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:50:50 +0100
> From: Carl Morris <carl AT quixoticquisling.com>
> To: cc-uk AT lists.ibiblio.org
> 
> Hi
> 
> 1. Can anyone advise on translating the England&Wales licences into
> Welsh? I'd like to put a team together to professionally translate them.
> (I've searched the mailing list archives but no result on this topic.)


Don't know if you've had a response yet, but as I understand it there is a 
new set of UK wide CC licences about to be available for public comment.  So 
this would be a fully integrated licence for the UK (and would be up to date 
with the main CC licenses).  I'd wait to translate until that license is out.

> 
> 2. I would like to do it properly and enable them to be legally binding
> in their own right. I assume Creative Commons would like to verify them
> somehow before endorsing them - what usually happens with translations
> like this? They would be direct translations of the England&Wales licences.

I'm not sure if in this context it'd be best to have the licenses be directly 
legally binding on their own -- might being a translation and the 
English-language version being the binding document be a better approach?  
Copyright isn't a devolved area within the UK and if it went to enforcement, 
the IP judges and court proceedings would all be in English wouldn't it?  
Others on these lists will know better than I about this aspect of law in 
England & Wales so just thinking aloud.

Thanks

~Jordan


> 
> 3. While I'm asking, are there any other related things that should be
> translated as well - like other texts and 'promotional' material? For
> instance I'd also like to get all the human-readable summaries done so
> Welsh can be featured on creativecommons.org, e.g.
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/uk/deed.en_GB
> 
> Although there is a lot of content in the Welsh language licensed under
> Creative Commons licences, no version of the licences seems to exist in
> the language itself (to my knowledge).
> 
> It could encourage adoption by Welsh language creators, artists and so
> on. Regarding question 2 I suppose there would be some benefit in having
> unapproved informal 'guide' texts in Welsh that would not be legally
> binding (a la translations of GPL). But this is far from ideal.
> 
> thanks for any help
> 
> Carl Morris
> 
> 
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