Creative Commons in the South Caucasus

[Movses Hakobyan <movses.hakobyan AT gmail.com>]

Dear Catharina,
You are right, in many cases when it is mentioned "Derivative work" it means
both Adaptations and Collections. In case of BY-NC, I guess we need to
substitute Adaptations to Derivative works IN order to include collections
too. If that is what we talking about I will keep on checking all remaining
Licenses.
Thanks
Movses

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Catharina Maracke <
catharina AT creativecommons.org> wrote:

> Dear Movses,
> Many thanks for the prompt answer. I appreciate all your comments and I
> think we are in agreement with every detail.
>
> For the sake of clarification, I just want to be sure that I understand
> things correctly :-))
>
> In the definitions, you have the term "derivative work" separated into two
> subsections, i) adaptations and ii) collections. Therefore, any time you
> refer to derivative work in the license you automatically refer to
> adaptations and collections and you don't need to have a separate license
> grant allowing to distribute and communicate adaptations. Is this what you
> have in mind and is my understanding correct? If so, then the BY-NC is
> drafted differently, meaning referring to adaptations and collections
> separately and independently, which I found (personally) clearer.
>
> Let me know if I am mistaken - and what you think. In any case, we should
> be clear and consistent, at least in the final version in Armenian.
>
> Best
>
> Catharina
>
>
> Dr. Catharina Maracke
>  catharina AT creativecommons.org
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Movses Hakobyan wrote:
>
> Dear Catharina,
> I received your comments and inserted my notes below
> Thanks
> Movses
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Catharina Maracke <
> catharina AT creativecommons.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Movses,
>> Thank you very much for sending the amended license drafts!! Everything
>> looks fine to me, I just found some very small questions which might only
>> show up in the English versions but I wanted to make sure that everything 
>> is
>> then complete and corrected in the final licenses in Armenian.
>>
>> *All licenses:*
>>
>> *Preamble*: Even if we have already discussed this section, I feel I have
>> to get back to it. The second sentence now reads "The rights of the 
>> licensor
>> with respect to his/her work are protected by the republic of armenia law 
>> on
>> copyright and related rights (hereinafter referred to as *law*), and/or
>> other applicable law." I find the addition in brackets slightly confusing
>> since in the same sentence the term "law" is mentioned and would then -
>> strictly speaking - mean that this is a reference to the *Armenian* law
>> again? I think we should just delete the addition term in (brackets).
>>
> Actually you are right I will delete that.
>
>>
>> *BY-NC-SA*
>>
>> License Grant: Section 3d) is missing?
>>
> I tracked back and found the following from the first draft (with
> substantiation)
>
> d. to Distribute and Publicly Perform Adaptations.* [Point “d” is deleted
> because both collections and adaptations are Derivative Works that are
> mentioned in the point “c” above].*
> It seemed to me that provision of point "d" is successfully implemented in
> the previous (point c of Section 3). However, you are right.
>
> The point "b" as in the unported version is as follows: *"to Distribute
> and Publicly Perform Adaptations." *is it correct or I should change
> "Adaptations" to "Derivative works" ?*
> *
>
>>
>> *BY-NC*
>>
>> In the license grant the term "adaptations" is used instead of "derivative
>> work". I understand that this is only the English retranslation and this
>> might have already been corrected in the original Armenian licenses but I
>> wanted to kindly emphasize that this should be drafted carefully and
>> consistently.
>>
> You mean point "d"? If yes I have already changed that.
>
>>
>> Please let me know your thoughts. If you agree with the above mentioned
>> comments, it would be nice to have the English versions finally complete in
>> our files before we move forward and start working on the xhtml in 
>> Armenian.
>>
>> Once again, thanks you very much for your time and energy on this project!
>> I am very much looking forward to seeing the Armenian licenses go live!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Catharina
>>
>>
>>  Dr. Catharina Maracke
>> catharina AT creativecommons.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 31, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Movses Hakobyan wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>> After final revision addressing last comments, I am sending all Licenses
>> both in EN and AM, plus BY-NC-SA that also was amended to harmonize with 
>> all
>> other licenses.
>> Thanks to all for comments and support.
>> With best regards
>> Movses
>>
>> --
>>
>> Movses Hakobyan
>> Lawyer/Projects Director
>> Internews' Center for Information Law and Policy
>> 3 Arshakunyats Ave, Yerevan 0023, Armenia
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>> fax: + 374 10 569041
>> www.internews.am
>> www.media.am
>> www.gipi.am <License_BY-NC-SA_3.0_Armenia_EN_FINAL_29 May 
>> 2009.pdf><License_BY-NC-SA_3
>> 0_Armenia_AM_FINAL_31 May 2009.pdf><BY_3.0_Armenia-EN _Final_29 May
>> 2009_.pdf><BY_3 0_Armenia_AM _Final_ 31 May 2009_.pdf><BY-NC_3.0_Armenia-EN
>> _Final_29 May 2009_.pdf><BY-NC_3 0_Armenia_AM__Final_31 May 
>> 2009_.pdf><BY-NC-ND_3.0_Armenia-EN
>> _Final_29 May 2009_.pdf><BY-NC-ND_3 0_Armenia_AM _Final_31 May 
>> 2009_.pdf><BY-ND_3.0_Armenia-EN
>> _Final_29 May 2009_.pdf><BY-ND_3 0_Armenia_AM _Final_31 May 
>> 2009_.pdf><BY-SA_
>> 3.0_Armenia-EN _Final_29 May 2009_.pdf><BY-SA_3 0_Armenia_AM__Final_31
>> May 2009_.pdf>
>>
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