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  • From: mark / negativland <markhosler AT bellsouth.net>
  • To: "g. thomas furgerson" <gthomasdirect AT mac.com>, <cc-sampling AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Cc: id AT scratch.com
  • Subject: Re: [cc-sampling] Nine Inch Nails track opens need for modified
  • Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 2:53:57 -0400

>

Personally, I think our sampling license covers this all just fine as is.

Your idea about Apple is a good one.

mark



> From: "g. thomas furgerson" <gthomasdirect AT mac.com>
> Date: 2005/04/17 Sun PM 02:39:42 EDT
> To: cc-sampling AT lists.ibiblio.org
> CC: id AT scratch.com
> Subject: [cc-sampling] Nine Inch Nails track opens need for modified
> "sampling" license
>
> Creative Commons,
>
> A new development arose just the other day with the release of Trent
> Reznor's (Nine Inch Nails) GarageBand mix of Nine Inch Nails' "Hand
> That Feeds" project.
>
> I don't know if this has been addressed or proposed, but a modified
> "Sampling" license may be in order.
>
> The sampling license needs to let "listeners" explicitly understand how
> samples and loops in their project mixes (not just the final piece, but
> the pieces) may be used in and outside the project from which they're
> enclosed. This is different from "sampling" just a song, or part of a
> song. The project has midi and live performances, Apple and ACID loops
> and "one shot" samples. Each element can can be accessed individually
> from a project. And rather than having to put a license on each
> "piece" of the puzzle, it would be much easier to have a blanket
> license over all the pieces. (Read the restrictive license that's
> presented when opening the NIN project file.)
>
> This will become much more necessary in the future, as more artists
> embrace fans "remixing" and "reusing" their creative ideas by providing
> their tracks as GarageBand mixes, especially as more users jump into
> using iLife. (Not to mention the Karaoke type uses when you can drop
> the lead vocals out.)
>
> Just some thoughts. ( I envisioned this years ago when ReBirth and
> then Reason came out, but that was before Creative Commons.)
>
> Creative Commons should also approach Apple about putting an easy
> "button" into iLife apps and other creative apps to add a Creative
> Commons and Copyright license tags directly into a project, document,
> song file or webpage.
>
> Okay, I'll send the suggestion to Apple myself, but I think the
> organization or Mr. Lessig would open more ears (Jobs) to the idea.
>
> Peace
> gthomas
>
>
>
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  • Re: [cc-sampling] Nine Inch Nails track opens need for modified, mark / negativland, 04/18/2005

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