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  • From: Don Joyce <dj AT webbnet.com>
  • To: creative commons license list <cc-sampling AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-sampling] What Is The Point Of This List?
  • Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:14:03 -0700

I would like to see it all (all the wording) layed out on screen,
distilled from whatever ideas we've had, and then invite rewritings
of all the specific wording to suit the masses.

I don't know how it can ever be paired down by remaining conceptual
until we supposedly arrive at a conclusion/concensus that can be
written down.

It all needs to be boiled down to a specific set of objectionable
phrases we can then tweak, transform, or delete.

DJ






Round and round is good. We have time. Discussion is fine.

Like I said, I'm happy to take all these names to the team, and I'll do
so on an ongoing basis.


Yes but if we are all spending time discussing names and then they
are just taken to a team who pick one then it is hardly a legitimate
and participatory method of choosing the name. Why not start to
narrow the field, or somehow allow us to take stock of what we are
talking about, otherwise this is starting to resemble a talking shop
that gives the *impression* of participation but lacks any real
power.

It certainly makes me wonder what the point of contributing if there
is no end in sight and newbies start us right at the beginning
again.. There surely needs to be some structure to how we are
forming some kind of consensus or decision..

Indeed, there are multiple levels to this discussion, my
understanding (possibly misplaced) was that we were able to not just
*influence* with its implications of a small group of technocratic
'experts' distilling the ideas into 'sensible' solutions. But more
radically we could direct, write and hey maybe even name the license
so that it reflected the needs and wishes of musicians rather than
lawyers... and who is best to make the decisions if about a license
that is for musicians to use... not the lawyers thats for sure!

And that's not to say I disagree with discussion, its just
unstructured, never ending, non-chaired, round and round discussion
that I have a problem with...

David meme


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