discussion of the Creative Commons Metadata work

[Edd Dumbill <edd AT usefulinc.com>]

[don't think this got thru; forwarding for Edd Dumbill - ASw]

It would be nice if you could pass this message through, please, as I
was copied on the thread explicitly by Mike Linksvayer.

On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 14:12 -0400, cc-metadata-owner AT lists.ibiblio.org
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> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 14:12 -0400, cc-metadata-owner AT lists.ibiblio.org
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> > On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 10:26 -0700, Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> > > http://usefulinc.com/doap
> > >
> > > Description-Of-A-Project is a vocabulary for describing open source
> > > projects that builds on FOAF.
> > >
> > > There may be some concepts in there useful for some "open content"
> > > projects as well, e.g., category, translator, download-mirror.
> > >
> > > It'd be nice if DOAP used or subpropertied (is that a word?) CC's
> > > license term rather than introducing a new term.
> >
> > My aim has been to make the terms that the project needs, and then to
> > use the RDF schema to relate them to existing terms.  I've been around
> > the houses with this once before on RSS 1.0, and it ended up in a bit 
> > of
> > a confusing mix.  This time I need the lowest possible barrier to
> > adoption.  Those that care about the RDF-ness of it are happy using
> > schemas.
> >
> > I will be endeavouring as much as I can to make doap:license 
> > subproperty
> > of cc:license.  I don't see any reason why I shouldn't add this to the
> > DOAP schema.
> >
> > > One obvious missing term is forkOf.  Or perhaps dc:source could be 
> > > used.
> >
> > Yes, that's a good comment.
> >
> > > In general I don't really understand why FOAF and now DOAP don't use 
> > > or
> > > subclass/property terms defined by Dublin Core when appropriate, 
> > > which
> > > would seem to me to be often.
> >
> > Dan Brickley (CC'd, if he's not on the list already) can speak to 
> > FOAF.
> > DOAP's a work in progress -- especially the RDF schema -- and will add
> > in subclass/property relationships to DC where it is appropriate.
> >
> > As to where the appropriateness of DC reuse lies, while on the face of
> > it this would seem to be in many places, unfortunately Dublin Core has
> > some problems in the looseness of the definition of its terms (e.g.
> > range of dc:creator), which cause confusion.  At least to me.
> >
> > Thanks for your comments, anyway.  I'm glad to be challenged, and glad
> > of the interest.  You may find reading the backstory linked from
> > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-osproj.html and
> > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-osproj2/ 
> > instructive
> > in figuring out where I'm coming from on this.
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