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Re: [cc-licenses] Compatibility with GPL and issues with availability f source
- From: Tarmo Toikkanen <tarmo.toikkanen AT aalto.fi>
- To: Development of Creative Commons licenses <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Compatibility with GPL and issues with availability f source
- Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 05:59:38 +0200
Could the simple solution be to add "provided the work also complies with any requirements of said compatible license" somewhere?
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Tarmo Toikkanen
tarmo.toikkanen AT aalto.fi
Learning Environments research group, http://legroup.aalto.fi
Aalto university, http://www.aalto.fi
On Wednesday 20. 02 2013 at 19.50, "Carlos Solís" wrote:
One of the topics commented for the discussion of the CC 4.0 licenses isthe option to give a one-way compatibility between the CC-By-SA and theGPL. At a first glance, it looks like a great idea, which would allow moreintercompatibility between free licenses, but there is an issue with theGPL's requirement to provide complete corresponding source code.First of all, there's no consensus on what can be taken as the source codeof every license-able work. For written works, it would be the editablefile (in Word format, for example). But what about audiovisual works?Usually those are composed by several raw files (variously named "stems","assets", "resources", and so on). Except for photographs (where there isonly one raw file, unedited except for the color balance), most otherworks of this kind are composed themselves by several files, and the setof commands that are used to combine them (the project file for audio andvideo, the image editor's full file for images). And then there's thequestion of how much must be an individual asset edited, in order torequire the release of both the original file and the commands to edit it.Secondly, as it should be well-known, most works under CC licenses(especially audiovisual works) don't release the source code, eitherbecause of the size of the files, or because those files weren't preservedat all. Also, the GPL requires that the assets and project files are "in aformat that is publicly documented (and with an implementation availableto the public in source code form), and must require no special passwordor key for unpacking, reading or copying". This outlaws releasing theproject if it was made with non-free software (like Photoshop, Word, SonyVegas and many more).That leaves two options for relicensing: allowing it only if those worksalready comply with releasing full corresponding source, or elseretroactively forcing authors to comply with the new license terms. Thelatter, however, would impose additional requirements to the authors in aretroactive fashion, and it may be difficult or impossible for them tocomply (for example, by remaking the file in a free software tool). And tomake things worse, it would also require the original author torecursively impose the same requirement on all the authors of all theassets used on the work.This doesn't mean that there shouldn't be any compatibility with the GPL,but it must be limited to works that already comply with the GPL'srequirement for source code (here meaning full assets, full instructionsfor editing the assets in their final form, and all files under a freeformat). This would prevent legal issues with the derivative GPL works,and avoid to impose terms retroactively on authors that may not be locatedor may not release the source on the required terms.- Carlos Solís_______________________________________________List info and archives at http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-licensesUnsubscribe at http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/cc-licensesIn consideration of people subscribed to this list to participatein the CC licenses http://wiki.creativecommons.org/4.0 developmentprocess, please direct unrelated discussions to the cc-community list
- Re: [cc-licenses] Compatibility with GPL and issues with availability f source, Tarmo Toikkanen, 02/28/2013
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