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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use
- From: Karl Ebener <myonlyb AT vollbio.de>
- To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use
- Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:14:48 +0200
Hi Terry,
imho the restriction "BY" is not only there to enforce parts of the European moral rights (don't want to open debate on principles...) , but is due to a analogy to open source licensing, where attribution is a very important part of participation. You join, you contribute and thus, you are named. It is an (=one of more) incentive for contributing...
Cheers,
Karl
Terry Hancock schrieb:
David Maeztu wrote:
You´re right, but that´s needed because in many laws there are
protection for moral rights, such as in Spain:
Article 14.4 of spanish IP law: [1]
"Correspond to the author the following rights wich cannot be renounced
and are inalienable:
4. To demand respect for work integrity and prevent any deformation,
change, alter or attented against the work that could harm author´s
interest´s or reputation."
I agree it´s prone to misuse but it`s imperative in many jurisdictions.
Why is that imperative to include in the CC license?
According to what you write above, it will apply within Spain, whether
the license mentions it or not (it isn't legal to remove this right).
But if the clause is included in the CC license, then you enforce this
oddity of European law onto Americans as well. Normally we (in the US)
do not recognize the idea of "moral rights" in a work (which is part of
our general theory that copyright is not a 'natural' right, but rather a
state-granted monopoly on an otherwise free activity -- copying
information).
It doesn't seem to me that reflecting such jurisdiction-specific
non-copyright laws is that helpful.
Cheers,
Terry
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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use,
Karl Ebener, 10/01/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use, drew Roberts, 10/01/2007
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use, Jordan S Hatcher, 10/01/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use, David Maeztu, 10/01/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use,
Jordan S Hatcher, 10/01/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use,
Terry Hancock, 10/02/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use,
Jordan S Hatcher, 10/02/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use,
Terry Hancock, 10/02/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use, Prodromos Tsiavos, 10/02/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use, Jordan S Hatcher, 10/02/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use,
Terry Hancock, 10/02/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use,
Jordan S Hatcher, 10/02/2007
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Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use,
Terry Hancock, 10/02/2007
- Re: [cc-licenses] Lawsuit over Virgin Mobile's and Ethical Use, David Maeztu, 10/01/2007
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