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  • From: Jamison Young <jam AT jamyoung.net>
  • To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: [cc-licenses] collection societies
  • Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:27:49 +0200

Hi CC mailing list,

Last week I got an email that talks about a new type of CC license that is able to be used in conjunction with collection societies in the Netherlands for a trail period. This CC license that is to be potentially adopted by the collection society shall allow the licensor to choose the way that a commercial use shall be defined (if i read the press release the right way). The choice takes place within the Burma/Stemra system. So I'm thinking that Burma/Stremra are going to decide what a commercial use is.

"In order to make this possible Buma/Stemra will - upon request - retransfer the rights needed for using a non-commercial CC licenses to their members. This happens online (on their website) and is stored in their internal processing and administration systems. the whole process takes about 30 seconds per song." extract from press release CC Netherlands.

If the collection societies are able to create a CC license with a definition of what a commercial use is, what is the effect of this ?

I reckon that creating a CC license that can adapt to anything is a good idea. Yet this is something new to the way I see CC and is this not a new form of licensing all together ?

Also:
I'm still relatively new to CC licensing, so maybe I have misinterpreted the situation. My view at the moment is that very few music artists (outside the US) have heard about CC, to create something without a reasonable demand is not easy, yet I agree its maybe possible.

thought:
From talkin with artists in Australia through http://www.myspace.com/ optoutofAPRA it seems that the only income that very much more than most "Self Published" artists are able to get is through "Live Performance". also, some artists have said that they are upset that non-profit clubs/venues/spaces end up having to pay for the use of content. So question is.
If an artist performs works in a non-profit space, does that non- profit venue still have to pay the collection societies for use of that artists works ? that is if the artist has licenses that/those works with a CC license.

The above question was in the context of what is happening with Burma/ Strema. can someone from CC Netherlands please answer the above though. If possible.

best,
Jamison









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