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  • From: Liz Berg <lizb AT wfmu.org>
  • To: cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] SoundExchange, 2.5 and 3.0 licenses
  • Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:44:46 -0400 (EDT)

Thanks for clearing this up, Paul. I didn't realize that the links I was following from the license explanation page all lead to the unported versions. I found a link to the 2.5 U.S. license from another site, and was thus confused by the differences. This helps immensely!

-Liz

Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:15:45 +0200
From: Paul Keller <pk AT kl.nl>
Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] SoundExchange, 2.5 and 3.0 licenses
To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts
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Dear Liz,
i think you are making a mistake here. you are comparing the generic
2.5 licenses with the unported 3.0 licenses. The generic licenses
where essentially US licenses based on US copyright law. The unported
3.0 licenses are intended for jurisdictions that do not have a ported
version of the CC licenses. As of 3.0 there is a US version of the CC
licenses and these licenses do contain the same provisions regarding
mechanical and performance royalties as the generic 2.5 licenses.
have a look at:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/legalcode and
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/us/legalcode

(note that the provisions are different for NC and non-NC licenses).

The term non-waivable coplulsory licensing schemes has been
introduced to deal with things like levies on blank media that are
collected in many European jurisdictions to reimburse authors for
private copying of their works. these shcemes are non-waivable, which
means regardless if you are using blank media for cc (non-NC)
licensed music, music that is under all rights reserved or even
public domain material people have to pay this fee when they purchase
blank media and the collected money will be distributed among artists
via collecting societies. as there is no way to get around these
levies it was decided to make it clear in the authors of cc-licensed
works do reserve this right. hope this helps

all the best from amsterdam,
paul

p.s i think that CC needs to be more upfront about the new US CC
licenses. as far as i can tell these are not really widely know


On Aug 3, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Liz Berg wrote:

For clarity, it seems as though the CC 2.5 licenses (by-nc and by-
nc-nd)
address the issue of performance and mechanical royalties in more
explicit
terms than the equivalent 3.0 licenses.

From what I gather, an artist who uses a CC 2.5 by-nc license cannot
collect royalties from a performance rights society, music rights
agency,
or SoundExchange unless their work was used for a commercial
purpose. But
please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

The 3.0 license, on the other hand appears to be more vague about this
issue, breaking it down under more general terms: non-waivable and
waivable compulsory license schemes, plus voluntary license
schemes. In
this 3.0 license, it appears as though there is one case where an
artist
may still collect royalties on a non-commercial use of their work:
if they
are bound by a non-waivable compulsory license scheme.

What are some examples of a non-waivable compulsory license scheme?
And
where do SoundExchange, performance rights organizations, and music
rights
agencies fall under these 3.0 classifications?

If I set up a non-commercial web stream that exclusively plays CC 3.0
music, will I owe royalties to SoundExchange? How about if that stream
exclusively plays CC 2.5 music?

Any help or insight would be much appreciated, thanks!

-Liz
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